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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/13] usb/mmc/power: Fix USB/LAN when TFTP booting
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:46:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFqpoi03Egfuvd8qJXnn_+FBgPXAb7S4UvkxVs8BA+zwnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160505224240.GA31429@rob-hp-laptop>

On 6 May 2016 at 00:42, Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 02:34:13PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a different, second try to fix usb3503+lan on Odroid U3 board
>> if it was initialized by bootloader (e.g. for TFTP boot).
>>
>> First version:
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg140042.html
>>
>>
>> Problem
>> =======
>> When Odroid U3 (usb3503 + smsc95xx + max77686) boots from network (TFTP),
>> the usb3503 and LAN smsc95xx do not show up in "lsusb". Hard-reset
>> is required, e.g. by suspend to RAM. The actual TFTP boot does
>> not have to happen. Just "usb start" from U-Boot is sufficient.
>>
>> From the schematics, the regulator is a supply only to LAN, however
>> without toggling it off/on, the usb3503 hub won appear neither.
>>
>>
>> Solution
>> ========
>> This is very similar to the MMC pwrseq behavior so the idea is to:
>> 1. Move MMC pwrseq drivers to generic place,
>
> You can do that, but I'm going to NAK any use of pwrseq bindings outside
> of MMC. I think it is the wrong way to do things. The DT should describe

Huh, I didn't know that was your view of the mmc pwrseq bindings. Why
didn't you NAK them before?

> the devices. If they happen to be "simple" then the core can walk the
> tree and do any setup. For example, look for "reset-gpios" and toggle
> that GPIO. There is no need for a special node.
>
>> 2. Extend the pwrseq-simple with regulator toggling,
>> 3. Add support to USB hub and port core for pwrseq,
>
> We discussed this for USB already[1] and is why we defined how to add
> USB child devices. The idea is not to add pwrseq to that.

I am not familiar with the USB discussion.

Still, let me give you some more background to the mmc pwrseq. The
idea from the mmc pwrseq bindings comes from the power-domain DT
bindings, as I thought these things were a bit related.
In both cases they are not directly a property of the device, but more
describing a HW dependency to allow the device to work.

One could probably use a child node instead of a phandle, but that
wasn't chosen back then. Of course you are the DT expert, but could
you perhaps tell me why a child node is better for cases like this?

>
> Rob
>
> [1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg134082.html

Kind regards
Uffe
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-09  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-05 12:34 [RFC v2 00/13] usb/mmc/power: Fix USB/LAN when TFTP booting Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 01/13] usb: misc: usb3503: Clean up on driver unbind Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 18:32   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 02/13] power/mmc: Move pwrseq drivers to power/pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 18:44   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:15     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 03/13] MAINTAINERS: Retain Ulf Hansson as the same maintainer of pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 18:46   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 06/13] power: pwrseq: Generalize mmc_pwrseq operations by removing mmc prefix Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <1462451666-17945-7-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 19:14     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 07/13] power: pwrseq: simple: Add support for toggling regulator Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 19:31   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:24     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 08/13] usb: hub: Handle deferred probe Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 19:33   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 09/13] power: pwrseq: Add support for USB hubs with external power Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <1462451666-17945-10-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 19:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:26       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 10/13] usb: hub: Power sequence the ports on activation Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <1462451666-17945-11-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 14:09     ` Alan Stern
2016-05-05 17:37       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 19:56   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
     [not found] ` <1462451666-17945-1-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 12:34   ` [RFC v2 04/13] power: pwrseq: Enable COMPILE_TEST for drivers Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]     ` <1462451666-17945-5-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 18:57       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-05 12:34   ` [RFC v2 05/13] power: pwrseq: Remove mmc prefix from mmc_pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 19:09     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:20       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34   ` [RFC v2 11/13] usb: port: Parse pwrseq phandle from Device Tree Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 20:10     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:27       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34   ` [RFC v2 12/13] ARM: dts: exynos: Switch the buck8 to GPIO mode on Odroid U3 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 20:11     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-05 22:42   ` [RFC v2 00/13] usb/mmc/power: Fix USB/LAN when TFTP booting Rob Herring
2016-05-06  5:44     ` Peter Chen
2016-05-06  6:12       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]         ` <572C35C8.9080709-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  7:15           ` Peter Chen
2016-05-06  6:10     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-06 13:01       ` Rob Herring
2016-05-09  7:46     ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2016-05-09 18:18       ` Rob Herring
2016-05-10 11:02         ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]           ` <CAPDyKFq2=mqujFjvJSYxg2nVmK=OrBKLtFfb-ErNJO3Zr_LMVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-28  3:36             ` Peter Chen
2016-05-31  0:58               ` Peter Chen
2016-05-31 11:54                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 12:34 ` [RFC v2 13/13] ARM: dts: exynos: Fix LAN and HUB after bootloader initialization on Odroid U3 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-05-05 20:16   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-05-06  6:28     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-12-13 12:20 ` [RFC v2 00/13] usb/mmc/power: Fix USB/LAN when TFTP booting Hans Verkuil
2016-12-13 12:34   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-13 13:53     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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