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From: Krzysztof Adamski <krzysztof.adamski@nokia.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Oskar Senft <osk@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: allow specifying channels for tmp421
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 20:32:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YUt2oD6sUKYvZLDB@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210922123926.GB3201379@roeck-us.net>

Dnia Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 05:39:26AM -0700, Guenter Roeck napisał(a):
>On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 09:22:33AM +0200, Krzysztof Adamski wrote:
>> Dnia Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 05:58:31AM -0700, Guenter Roeck napisał(a):
>> > >
>> > > ti,n-factor
>> >
>> > n-factor isn't just supported by TI sensors, though it isn't always called
>> > n-factor. Maxim (eg MAX6581) uses the term "ideality factor", though they
>> > also refer to the factor as "N" in the datasheet.
>> >
>> > So question is if we make this ti,n-factor and maxim,n-factor, or if we make
>> > it generic and define some kind of generic units. Thoughts ? My personal
>> > preference would be a generic definition, but is not a strong preference.
>>
>> That was exactly my way of thinking here - many sensors have n-factor
>> parameter and this is the name I see most often.
>>
>> That being said, maybe it should be "nfactor" instead of "n-factor", as
>> this is what tmp513 is using?
>>
>> > In regard to units, the n-factor is, as the name says, a factor. Default
>> > value is 1.008. The value range for MAX6581 is 0.999 to 1.030. For TMP421
>> > it is 0.706542 to 1.747977. So the scondary question is if the value
>> > written should be the register value (as proposed here) or the absolute
>> > factor (eg in micro-units).
>>
>> Since expressing the fractional values in DT isn't well supported and
>> (at least here) hardware guys like to think in terms of register values
>> so this is what I proposed. Also, I just noticed that, for example,
>> TMP531 is using register values as well.
>>
>
>I never see "someone else does that" as valid argument.

It is not an argument for "so I should be allowed too" but more like "so
it is generic enough to make sense for more than a single case" :)

> Also, DT does support fractional values, via units. It is perfectly
> valid to describe a voltage as micro-volt, for example.

True. But doing so for unit-less values isn't as obvious. For real
fractions we don't even know what the resolution should be and then we
also may have those rounding errors etc (while with register values we
know precisely what we get). As usual, we have some pros and
cons of both approaches. While I agree raw values are not perfect, I
still think it makes more sense so I vote for them. But my vote,
obviously, isn't that important here so I'll let you guys decide.

>If the agreement is to use raw register values, I think the property name
>should be prefixed with the vendor name, since it won't be a standard
>property. I'll defer on Rob for that, though.

Fair enough. If we go that route, we should use "ti,nfactor" (without
dash) to be consistent with ti513?

Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-22 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 13:41 [PATCH 0/8] Add per channel properies support in tmp421 Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:42 ` [PATCH 1/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: add missing tmp421 binding Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-20 22:21   ` Rob Herring
2021-09-07 13:42 ` [PATCH 2/8] hwmon: (tmp421) introduce MAX_CHANNELS define Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 3/8] hwmon: (tmp421) introduce a channel struct Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/8] hwmon: (tmp421) add support for defining labels from DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:46   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 17:49     ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 17:55       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 18:08         ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 18:28   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 17:29   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 17:29   ` [RFC PATCH] hwmon: tmp421_probe_child_from_dt() can be static kernel test robot
2021-09-07 13:43 ` [PATCH 5/8] hwmon: (tmp421) support disabling channels from DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:33   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 13:45 ` [PATCH 6/8] hwmon: (tmp421) support specifying n-factor via DT Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:42   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 13:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] hwmon: (tmp421) really disable channels Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:37   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 19:52   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 20:40   ` kernel test robot
2021-09-09 20:40   ` [RFC PATCH] hwmon: tmp421_disable_channels() can be static kernel test robot
2021-09-07 13:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] dt-bindings: hwmon: allow specifying channels for tmp421 Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-07 15:46   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-07 18:04     ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-20 22:24   ` Rob Herring
2021-09-21 12:58     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-21 19:06       ` Rob Herring
2021-09-21 20:52         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-21 21:21           ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-21 22:03           ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-23 15:30           ` Rob Herring
2021-09-24  0:29             ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-24  7:53               ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-24 11:46                 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-24 15:37                   ` Oskar Senft
2021-09-25 13:26                     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-10-08 12:55                       ` Oskar Senft
2021-10-08 13:11                         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-22  7:22       ` Krzysztof Adamski
2021-09-22 12:39         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-09-22 18:32           ` Krzysztof Adamski [this message]
2021-09-23  0:38             ` Guenter Roeck

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