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From: bfields@fieldses.org (J. Bruce Fields)
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, virtio-fs@redhat.com, dwalsh@redhat.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, casey.schaufler@intel.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	tytso@mit.edu, miklos@szeredi.hu, gscrivan@redhat.com,
	jack@suse.cz, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] xattr: Allow user.* xattr on symlink and special files
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 11:41:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210712154106.GB18679@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210712140247.GA486376@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 10:02:47AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 04:10:16PM -0400, Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:59 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > nfs seems to have some issues.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what the expected behavior is for nfs.  All I have for
> > now is some generic troubleshooting ideas, sorry:
> > 
> > > - I can set user.foo xattr on symlink and query it back using xattr name.
> > >
> > >   getfattr -h -n user.foo foo-link.txt
> > >
> > >   But when I try to dump all xattrs on this file, user.foo is being
> > >   filtered out it looks like. Not sure why.
> > 
> > Logging into the server and seeing what's set there could help confirm
> > whether it's the client or server that's at fault.  (Or watching the
> > traffic in wireshark; there are GET/SET/LISTXATTR ops that should be
> > easy to spot.)
> > 
> > > - I can't set "user.foo" xattr on a device node on nfs and I get
> > >   "Permission denied". I am assuming nfs server is returning this.
> > 
> > Wireshark should tell you whether it's the server or client doing that.
> > 
> > The RFC is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8276, and I don't
> > see any explicit statement about what the server should do in the case
> > of symlinks or device nodes, but I do see "Any regular file or
> > directory may have a set of extended attributes", so that was clearly
> > the assumption.  Also, NFS4ERR_WRONG_TYPE is listed as a possible
> > error return for the xattr ops.  But on a quick skim I don't see any
> > explicit checks in the nfsd code, so I *think* it's just relying on
> > the vfs for any file type checks.
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> Thanks for the response. I am just trying to do set a user.foo xattr on
> a device node on nfs.
> 
> setfattr -n "user.foo" -v "bar" /mnt/nfs/test-dev
> 
> and I get -EACCESS.
> 
> I put some printk() statements and EACCESS is being returned from here.
> 
> nfs4_xattr_set_nfs4_user() {
>         if (!nfs_access_get_cached(inode, current_cred(), &cache, true)) {
>                 if (!(cache.mask & NFS_ACCESS_XAWRITE)) {
>                         return -EACCES;
>                 }
>         }
> }
> 
> Value of cache.mask=0xd at the time of error.

Looks like 0xd is what the server returns to access on a device node
with mode bits rw- for the caller.

Commit c11d7fd1b317 "nfsd: take xattr bits into account for permission
checks" added the ACCESS_X* bits for regular files and directories but
not others.

But you don't want to determine permission from the mode bits anyway,
you want it to depend on the owner, so I guess we should be calling
xattr_permission somewhere if we want that behavior.

The RFC assumes user xattrs are for regular files and directories,
without, as far as I can tell, actually explicitly forbidding them on
other objects.  We should also raise this with the working group if we
want to increase the chances that you'll get the behavior you want on
non-Linux servers.

The "User extended attributes" section of the xattr(7) man page will
need updating.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-12 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-08 17:57 [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] Relax restrictions on user.* xattr Vivek Goyal
2021-07-08 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] xattr: Allow user.* xattr on symlink and special files Vivek Goyal
2021-07-09  9:19   ` Christian Brauner
2021-07-09 15:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-09 15:34       ` Casey Schaufler
2021-07-09 17:59         ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-09 20:10           ` Bruce Fields
2021-07-12 14:02             ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-12 15:41               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2021-07-12 17:47                 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-12 19:31                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-12 21:22                     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-13 14:17                   ` Casey Schaufler
2021-08-30 18:45                     ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-09 20:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-07-12 17:50           ` Vivek Goyal
2021-07-12 12:49         ` [Virtio-fs] " Greg Kurz
2021-07-13 14:28           ` Casey Schaufler
2021-07-09 16:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] Relax restrictions on user.* xattr Daniel Walsh

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