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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"baolu.lu@linux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "jean-philippe@linaro.org" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@gmail.com" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Tian, Jun J" <jun.j.tian@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:57:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3e07f47-3ce9-caf4-8a01-b68fdaae853d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB164517F15EF2C4831C191CF28C230@MWHPR11MB1645.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>


On 2020/9/14 下午4:01, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 12:20 PM
>>
>> On 2020/9/10 下午6:45, Liu Yi L wrote:
>>> Shared Virtual Addressing (SVA), a.k.a, Shared Virtual Memory (SVM) on
>>> Intel platforms allows address space sharing between device DMA and
>>> applications. SVA can reduce programming complexity and enhance
>> security.
>>> This VFIO series is intended to expose SVA usage to VMs. i.e. Sharing
>>> guest application address space with passthru devices. This is called
>>> vSVA in this series. The whole vSVA enabling requires QEMU/VFIO/IOMMU
>>> changes. For IOMMU and QEMU changes, they are in separate series (listed
>>> in the "Related series").
>>>
>>> The high-level architecture for SVA virtualization is as below, the key
>>> design of vSVA support is to utilize the dual-stage IOMMU translation (
>>> also known as IOMMU nesting translation) capability in host IOMMU.
>>>
>>>
>>>       .-------------.  .---------------------------.
>>>       |   vIOMMU    |  | Guest process CR3, FL only|
>>>       |             |  '---------------------------'
>>>       .----------------/
>>>       | PASID Entry |--- PASID cache flush -
>>>       '-------------'                       |
>>>       |             |                       V
>>>       |             |                CR3 in GPA
>>>       '-------------'
>>> Guest
>>> ------| Shadow |--------------------------|--------
>>>         v        v                          v
>>> Host
>>>       .-------------.  .----------------------.
>>>       |   pIOMMU    |  | Bind FL for GVA-GPA  |
>>>       |             |  '----------------------'
>>>       .----------------/  |
>>>       | PASID Entry |     V (Nested xlate)
>>>       '----------------\.------------------------------.
>>>       |             ||SL for GPA-HPA, default domain|
>>>       |             |   '------------------------------'
>>>       '-------------'
>>> Where:
>>>    - FL = First level/stage one page tables
>>>    - SL = Second level/stage two page tables
>>>
>>> Patch Overview:
>>>    1. reports IOMMU nesting info to userspace ( patch 0001, 0002, 0003,
>> 0015 , 0016)
>>>    2. vfio support for PASID allocation and free for VMs (patch 0004, 0005,
>> 0007)
>>>    3. a fix to a revisit in intel iommu driver (patch 0006)
>>>    4. vfio support for binding guest page table to host (patch 0008, 0009,
>> 0010)
>>>    5. vfio support for IOMMU cache invalidation from VMs (patch 0011)
>>>    6. vfio support for vSVA usage on IOMMU-backed mdevs (patch 0012)
>>>    7. expose PASID capability to VM (patch 0013)
>>>    8. add doc for VFIO dual stage control (patch 0014)
>>
>> If it's possible, I would suggest a generic uAPI instead of a VFIO
>> specific one.
>>
>> Jason suggest something like /dev/sva. There will be a lot of other
>> subsystems that could benefit from this (e.g vDPA).
>>
> Just be curious. When does vDPA subsystem plan to support vSVA and
> when could one expect a SVA-capable vDPA device in market?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin


vSVA is in the plan but there's no ETA. I think we might start the work 
after control vq support.  It will probably start from SVA first and 
then vSVA (since it might require platform support).

For the device part, it really depends on the chipset and other device 
vendors. We plan to do the prototype in virtio by introducing PASID 
support in the spec.

Thanks


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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-10 10:45 [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] iommu: Report domain nesting info Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 19:38   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] iommu/smmu: Report empty " Liu Yi L
2021-01-12  6:50   ` Vivek Gautam
2021-01-12  9:21     ` Liu, Yi L
2021-01-12 11:05       ` Vivek Gautam
2021-01-13  5:56         ` Liu, Yi L
2021-01-19 10:03           ` Auger Eric
2021-01-23  8:59             ` Liu, Yi L
2021-02-12  7:14               ` Vivek Gautam
2021-02-12  9:57                 ` Auger Eric
2021-02-12 10:18                   ` Vivek Kumar Gautam
2021-02-12 11:01                     ` Vivek Kumar Gautam
2021-03-03  9:44                   ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] vfio/type1: Report iommu nesting info to userspace Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 20:16   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  8:24     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] vfio: Add PASID allocation/free support Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 20:54   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-15  4:03     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] iommu/vt-d: Support setting ioasid set to domain Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] iommu/vt-d: Remove get_task_mm() in bind_gpasid() Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] vfio/type1: Add VFIO_IOMMU_PASID_REQUEST (alloc/free) Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 21:38   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  6:17     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] iommu: Pass domain to sva_unbind_gpasid() Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Check ownership for PASIDs from user-space Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] vfio/type1: Support binding guest page tables to PASID Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 22:03   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  6:02     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] vfio/type1: Allow invalidating first-level/stage IOMMU cache Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] vfio/type1: Add vSVA support for IOMMU-backed mdevs Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] vfio/pci: Expose PCIe PASID capability to guest Liu Yi L
2020-09-11 22:13   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-12  7:17     ` Liu, Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] vfio: Document dual stage control Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] iommu/vt-d: Only support nesting when nesting caps are consistent across iommu units Liu Yi L
2020-09-10 10:45 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] iommu/vt-d: Support reporting nesting capability info Liu Yi L
2020-09-14  4:20 ` [PATCH v7 00/16] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Jason Wang
2020-09-14  8:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-14  8:57     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-09-14 10:38       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-14 11:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 13:31   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-14 13:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 16:22       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-14 16:33         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 16:58           ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 17:41             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 18:23               ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-14 19:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 22:33                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-15 14:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  1:19                       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-16  8:32                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-16 14:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:20                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-09-16 16:32                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:50                                 ` Auger Eric
2020-09-16 14:44                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17  6:01                           ` Tian, Kevin
2020-09-14 22:44                   ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-15 11:33                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 18:11                       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-15 18:45                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 19:26                           ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-15 23:45                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  2:33                             ` Jason Wang
2020-09-15 22:08                           ` Jacob Pan
2020-09-15 23:51                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  0:22                               ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-16  1:46                                 ` Lu Baolu
2020-09-16 15:07                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 16:33                                   ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-16 17:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 18:21                                       ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-16 18:38                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 23:09                                           ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-17  3:53                                             ` Jason Wang
2020-09-17 17:31                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 18:17                                               ` Jacob Pan (Jun)
2020-09-18  3:58                                                 ` Jason Wang
2020-09-16  2:29     ` Jason Wang

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