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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [nacked] mm-oom-avoid-printk-iteration-under-rcu.patch removed from -mm tree
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:18:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424151830.GJ11591@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200424090230.404ed12b@gandalf.local.home>

On Fri 24-04-20 09:02:30, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:06:46 +0200
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> 
> > > If we can agree with not printing dump_tasks() output to consoles, a trivial
> > > patch shown below will solve the problem. Those who cannot run syslog daemon
> > > in userspace might disagree, but this will be the simplest answer.  
> > 
> > Talk to printk people about this.
> 
> Please no!
> 
> Usually when the system runs out of memory, I have no access to a shell,
> and the oom output to the console may be the only information I can use to
> debug the situation.

Well, as I've said in other email, what belongs to console is a matter
of userspace policy which should be based on the loglevel [1].  Whether
a concept of a loglevel or some other means to tell that this is a large
bag of output that doesn't have the top priority and printk would do
something clever about that is a question for you (printk maintainers).

[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200423143550.GH4206@dhcp22.suse.cz
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200131043324.wkArXTf6-%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2020-04-17 14:33 ` [nacked] mm-oom-avoid-printk-iteration-under-rcu.patch removed from -mm tree Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-17 15:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-18 10:13     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-20  7:33       ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-22  6:40         ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-22  6:59           ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-23  5:34             ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-23  6:35               ` Yafang Shao
2020-04-23  7:34                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-23 10:22                   ` Yafang Shao
2020-04-23 11:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-23 13:28                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-23 14:06                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-23 14:14                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-23 14:35                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-24 13:02                           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-24 15:18                             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-04-23 15:54                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-04-23 22:56                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-04-24  0:56                         ` Yafang Shao
2020-04-24  1:16                           ` Tetsuo Handa

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