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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
Cc: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 23/23] arm64: mte: Add Memory Tagging Extension documentation
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 12:27:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200515112740.GB22393@gaia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200515111359.GC27289@arm.com>

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:14:00PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> The 05/15/2020 11:38, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:37:22PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > We have two options with suboptions:
> > > 
> > > 1. prctl() gets an exclude mask with 0xffff illegal even though the
> > >    hardware accepts it:
> > >    a) default exclude mask 0, allowing all tags to be generated by IRG
> > >    b) default exclude mask of 0xfffe so that only tag 0 is generated
> > > 
> > > 2. prctl() gets an include mask with 0 illegal:
> > >    a) default include mask is 0xffff, allowing all tags to be generated
> > >    b) default include mask 0f 0x0001 so that only tag 0 is generated
> > > 
> > > We currently have (2) with mask 0 but could be changed to (2.b). If we
> > > are to follow the hardware description (which makes more sense to me but
> > > I don't write the C library), (1.a) is the most appropriate.
> > 
> > Thinking some more about this, as we are to expose the GCR_EL1.Excl via
> > a ptrace interface as a regset, it makes more sense to move back to an
> > exclude mask here with default 0. That would be option 1.a above.
> 
> i think the libc has to do a prctl call to set
> mte up and at that point it will use whatever
> arguments necessary, so 1.a should work (just
> like the other options).
> 
> likely libc will disable 0 for irg and possibly
> one or two other fixed colors (which will have
> specific use).
> 
> the difference i see between 1 vs 2 is forward
> compatibility if the architecture changes (e.g.
> adding more tag bits) but then likely new prctl
> flag will be needed for handling that so it's
> probably not an issue.

Thanks Szabolcs. While we are at this, no-one so far asked for the
GCR_EL1.RRND to be exposed to user (and this implies RGSR_EL1.SEED).
Since RRND=1 guarantees a distribution "no worse" than that of RRND=0, I
thought there isn't much point in exposing this configuration to the
user. The only advantage of RRND=0 I see is that the kernel can change
the seed randomly but, with only 4 bits per tag, it really doesn't
matter much.

Anyway, mentioning it here in case anyone is surprised later about the
lack of RRND configurability.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-15 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-21 14:25 [PATCH v3 00/23] arm64: Memory Tagging Extension user-space support Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] arm64: alternative: Allow alternative_insn to always issue the first instruction Catalin Marinas
2020-04-27 16:57   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-28 11:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 10:26       ` Dave Martin
2020-04-29 14:04         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] arm64: mte: system register definitions Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] arm64: mte: CPU feature detection and initial sysreg configuration Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] arm64: mte: Use Normal Tagged attributes for the linear map Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] arm64: mte: Assembler macros and default architecture for .S files Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] arm64: mte: Tags-aware clear_page() implementation Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] arm64: mte: Tags-aware copy_page() implementation Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] arm64: Tags-aware memcmp_pages() implementation Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] arm64: mte: Add specific SIGSEGV codes Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] arm64: mte: Handle synchronous and asynchronous tag check faults Catalin Marinas
2020-04-23 10:38   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-27 16:58   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-28 13:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 10:26       ` Dave Martin
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] mm: Introduce arch_calc_vm_flag_bits() Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] arm64: mte: Add PROT_MTE support to mmap() and mprotect() Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] mm: Introduce arch_validate_flags() Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] arm64: mte: Validate the PROT_MTE request via arch_validate_flags() Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] mm: Allow arm64 mmap(PROT_MTE) on RAM-based files Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] arm64: mte: Allow user control of the tag check mode via prctl() Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] arm64: mte: Allow user control of the generated random tags " Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] arm64: mte: Restore the GCR_EL1 register after a suspend Catalin Marinas
2020-04-23 15:23   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-04-21 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] arm64: mte: Add PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}MTETAGS support Catalin Marinas
2020-04-24 23:28   ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-04-29 10:27   ` Kevin Brodsky
2020-04-29 15:24     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 16:46   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-30 10:21     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-04 16:40       ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 18:03   ` Luis Machado
2020-05-12 19:05   ` Luis Machado
2020-05-13 10:48     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-13 12:52       ` Luis Machado
2020-05-13 14:11         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-13 15:09           ` Luis Machado
2020-05-13 16:45             ` Luis Machado
2020-05-13 17:11               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-18 16:47               ` Dave Martin
2020-05-18 17:12                 ` Luis Machado
2020-05-19 16:10                   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:26 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] fs: Allow copy_mount_options() to access user-space in a single pass Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 15:29   ` Al Viro
2020-04-21 16:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-27 16:56   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-28 14:06     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 10:28       ` Dave Martin
2020-04-28 18:16   ` Kevin Brodsky
2020-04-28 19:40     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 11:58     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-28 19:36   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 10:26   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-29 13:52     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-04 16:40       ` Dave Martin
2020-04-21 14:26 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] arm64: mte: Check the DT memory nodes for MTE support Catalin Marinas
2020-04-24 13:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-24 16:17     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-27 11:14       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2020-04-21 14:26 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] arm64: mte: Kconfig entry Catalin Marinas
2020-04-21 14:26 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] arm64: mte: Add Memory Tagging Extension documentation Catalin Marinas
2020-04-29 16:47   ` Dave Martin
2020-04-30 16:23     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-04 16:46       ` Dave Martin
2020-05-11 16:40         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-13 15:48           ` Dave Martin
2020-05-14 11:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 10:38               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 11:14                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-15 11:27                   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2020-05-15 12:04                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-15 12:13                       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 12:53                         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-18 16:52                           ` Dave Martin
2020-05-18 17:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-05 10:32   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-05 17:30     ` Catalin Marinas

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