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* [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes calculation rules
@ 2023-06-21  9:20 liuq
  2023-06-21 10:00 ` Kefeng Wang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: liuq @ 2023-06-21  9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: akpm; +Cc: ying.huang, linux-mm, linux-kernel, liuq

The current calculation of min_free_kbytes only uses ZONE_DMA and
ZONE_NORMAL pages,but the ZONE_MOVABLE zone->_watermark[WMARK_MIN]
will also divide part of min_free_kbytes.This will cause the min
watermark of ZONE_NORMAL to be too small in the presence of ZONE_MOVEABLE.

__GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't need movable
zone pages, so just like ZONE_HIGHMEM, cap pages_min to a small
value in __setup_per_zone_wmarks.

On my testing machine with 16GB of memory (transparent hugepage is
turned off by default, and movablecore=12G is configured)
The following is a comparative test data of watermark_min

		no patch	add patch
ZONE_DMA	1		8
ZONE_DMA32	151		709
ZONE_NORMAL	233		1113
ZONE_MOVABLE	1434		128
min_free_kbytes	7288		7326

Signed-off-by: liuq <liuq131@chinatelecom.cn>
---
 mm/page_alloc.c | 12 ++++++------
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index 47421bedc12b..590ed8725e09 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -6362,9 +6362,9 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
 	struct zone *zone;
 	unsigned long flags;
 
-	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM pages */
+	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM and !ZONE_MOVABLE pages */
 	for_each_zone(zone) {
-		if (!is_highmem(zone))
+		if (!is_highmem(zone) && zone_idx(zone) != ZONE_MOVABLE)
 			lowmem_pages += zone_managed_pages(zone);
 	}
 
@@ -6374,15 +6374,15 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
 		spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lock, flags);
 		tmp = (u64)pages_min * zone_managed_pages(zone);
 		do_div(tmp, lowmem_pages);
-		if (is_highmem(zone)) {
+		if (is_highmem(zone) || zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_MOVABLE) {
 			/*
 			 * __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't
-			 * need highmem pages, so cap pages_min to a small
-			 * value here.
+			 * need highmem and movable zones pages, so cap pages_min
+			 * to a small  value here.
 			 *
 			 * The WMARK_HIGH-WMARK_LOW and (WMARK_LOW-WMARK_MIN)
 			 * deltas control async page reclaim, and so should
-			 * not be capped for highmem.
+			 * not be capped for highmem and movable zones.
 			 */
 			unsigned long min_pages;
 
-- 
2.27.0



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* Re: [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes calculation rules
  2023-06-21  9:20 [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes calculation rules liuq
@ 2023-06-21 10:00 ` Kefeng Wang
  2023-06-21 14:30   ` liuq
  2023-06-25  1:40   ` Huang, Ying
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Kefeng Wang @ 2023-06-21 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: liuq, akpm
  Cc: ying.huang, linux-mm, linux-kernel, mawupeng 00564683, Mel Gorman

Hi Liuq,

On 2023/6/21 17:20, liuq wrote:
> The current calculation of min_free_kbytes only uses ZONE_DMA and
> ZONE_NORMAL pages,but the ZONE_MOVABLE zone->_watermark[WMARK_MIN]
> will also divide part of min_free_kbytes.This will cause the min
> watermark of ZONE_NORMAL to be too small in the presence of ZONE_MOVEABLE.
> 
> __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't need movable
> zone pages, so just like ZONE_HIGHMEM, cap pages_min to a small
> value in __setup_per_zone_wmarks.
> 
> On my testing machine with 16GB of memory (transparent hugepage is
> turned off by default, and movablecore=12G is configured)
> The following is a comparative test data of watermark_min
> 
> 		no patch	add patch
> ZONE_DMA	1		8
> ZONE_DMA32	151		709
> ZONE_NORMAL	233		1113
> ZONE_MOVABLE	1434		128
> min_free_kbytes	7288		7326
> 

We see this issue and do the same change[1], and we add a per zone 
watermark configuration too, but both of them is not accepted,
let's add Mel and wupeng to see more comments.

[1]https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220905032858.1462927-1-mawupeng1@huawei.com/

> Signed-off-by: liuq <liuq131@chinatelecom.cn>
> ---
>   mm/page_alloc.c | 12 ++++++------
>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 47421bedc12b..590ed8725e09 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -6362,9 +6362,9 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>   	struct zone *zone;
>   	unsigned long flags;
>   
> -	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM pages */
> +	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM and !ZONE_MOVABLE pages */
>   	for_each_zone(zone) {
> -		if (!is_highmem(zone))
> +		if (!is_highmem(zone) && zone_idx(zone) != ZONE_MOVABLE)
>   			lowmem_pages += zone_managed_pages(zone);
>   	}
>   
> @@ -6374,15 +6374,15 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>   		spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lock, flags);
>   		tmp = (u64)pages_min * zone_managed_pages(zone);
>   		do_div(tmp, lowmem_pages);
> -		if (is_highmem(zone)) {
> +		if (is_highmem(zone) || zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_MOVABLE) {
>   			/*
>   			 * __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't
> -			 * need highmem pages, so cap pages_min to a small
> -			 * value here.
> +			 * need highmem and movable zones pages, so cap pages_min
> +			 * to a small  value here.
>   			 *
>   			 * The WMARK_HIGH-WMARK_LOW and (WMARK_LOW-WMARK_MIN)
>   			 * deltas control async page reclaim, and so should
> -			 * not be capped for highmem.
> +			 * not be capped for highmem and movable zones.
>   			 */
>   			unsigned long min_pages;
>   


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* Re: [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes calculation rules
  2023-06-21 10:00 ` Kefeng Wang
@ 2023-06-21 14:30   ` liuq
  2023-06-25  1:40   ` Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: liuq @ 2023-06-21 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kefeng Wang, akpm
  Cc: ying.huang, linux-mm, linux-kernel, mawupeng 00564683, Mel Gorman

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在 2023/6/21 18:00, Kefeng Wang 写道:
> Hi Liuq,
>
> On 2023/6/21 17:20, liuq wrote:
>> The current calculation of min_free_kbytes only uses ZONE_DMA and
>> ZONE_NORMAL pages,but the ZONE_MOVABLE zone->_watermark[WMARK_MIN]
>> will also divide part of min_free_kbytes.This will cause the min
>> watermark of ZONE_NORMAL to be too small in the presence of 
>> ZONE_MOVEABLE.
>>
>> __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't need movable
>> zone pages, so just like ZONE_HIGHMEM, cap pages_min to a small
>> value in __setup_per_zone_wmarks.
>>
>> On my testing machine with 16GB of memory (transparent hugepage is
>> turned off by default, and movablecore=12G is configured)
>> The following is a comparative test data of watermark_min
>>
>>         no patch    add patch
>> ZONE_DMA    1        8
>> ZONE_DMA32    151        709
>> ZONE_NORMAL    233        1113
>> ZONE_MOVABLE    1434        128
>> min_free_kbytes    7288        7326
>>
>
> We see this issue and do the same change[1], and we add a per zone 
> watermark configuration too, but both of them is not accepted,
> let's add Mel and wupeng to see more comments.
>
> [1]https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220905032858.1462927-1-mawupeng1@huawei.com/ 
>
>
Hi wupeng,

Thank you for your reply. Actually, in my version 1, in the presence of ZONE_MOVABLE, 


the calculation of min_free_kbytes can be improved when the ZONE_MOVABLE pages were added to the lowmem_kbytes. 


However, whether the value of watermark_min should be maintained at high level is unclear.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230609032552.218010-1-liuq131@chinatelecom.cn/#r


Best Regards

liuq

>> Signed-off-by: liuq <liuq131@chinatelecom.cn>
>> ---
>>   mm/page_alloc.c | 12 ++++++------
>>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index 47421bedc12b..590ed8725e09 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -6362,9 +6362,9 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>       struct zone *zone;
>>       unsigned long flags;
>>   -    /* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM pages */
>> +    /* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM and !ZONE_MOVABLE 
>> pages */
>>       for_each_zone(zone) {
>> -        if (!is_highmem(zone))
>> +        if (!is_highmem(zone) && zone_idx(zone) != ZONE_MOVABLE)
>>               lowmem_pages += zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>       }
>>   @@ -6374,15 +6374,15 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>           spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lock, flags);
>>           tmp = (u64)pages_min * zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>           do_div(tmp, lowmem_pages);
>> -        if (is_highmem(zone)) {
>> +        if (is_highmem(zone) || zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_MOVABLE) {
>>               /*
>>                * __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't
>> -             * need highmem pages, so cap pages_min to a small
>> -             * value here.
>> +             * need highmem and movable zones pages, so cap pages_min
>> +             * to a small  value here.
>>                *
>>                * The WMARK_HIGH-WMARK_LOW and (WMARK_LOW-WMARK_MIN)
>>                * deltas control async page reclaim, and so should
>> -             * not be capped for highmem.
>> +             * not be capped for highmem and movable zones.
>>                */
>>               unsigned long min_pages;

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* Re: [PATCH v3] mm/min_free_kbytes: modify min_free_kbytes calculation rules
  2023-06-21 10:00 ` Kefeng Wang
  2023-06-21 14:30   ` liuq
@ 2023-06-25  1:40   ` Huang, Ying
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Huang, Ying @ 2023-06-25  1:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kefeng Wang
  Cc: liuq, akpm, linux-mm, linux-kernel, mawupeng 00564683, Mel Gorman

Hi, Kefeng,

Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> writes:

> Hi Liuq,
>
> On 2023/6/21 17:20, liuq wrote:
>> The current calculation of min_free_kbytes only uses ZONE_DMA and
>> ZONE_NORMAL pages,but the ZONE_MOVABLE zone->_watermark[WMARK_MIN]
>> will also divide part of min_free_kbytes.This will cause the min
>> watermark of ZONE_NORMAL to be too small in the presence of ZONE_MOVEABLE.
>> __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't need movable
>> zone pages, so just like ZONE_HIGHMEM, cap pages_min to a small
>> value in __setup_per_zone_wmarks.
>> On my testing machine with 16GB of memory (transparent hugepage is
>> turned off by default, and movablecore=12G is configured)
>> The following is a comparative test data of watermark_min
>> 		no patch	add patch
>> ZONE_DMA	1		8
>> ZONE_DMA32	151		709
>> ZONE_NORMAL	233		1113
>> ZONE_MOVABLE	1434		128
>> min_free_kbytes	7288		7326
>> 
>
> We see this issue and do the same change[1], and we add a per zone
> watermark configuration too, but both of them is not accepted,
> let's add Mel and wupeng to see more comments.
>
> [1]https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220905032858.1462927-1-mawupeng1@huawei.com/

Thanks for your information!  That's very useful.

As Mel said, ZONE_MOVABLE or ZONE_HIGHMEM pages allocation will need low
memory to be allocated too.  But I don't understand why higher min
watermark of ZONE_MOVABLE will help this.  It's too small compared with
the size of ZONE_MOVABLE in most cases.  For example, on the system of
the patch description, the original "large" min watermark of
ZONE_MOVABLE is only (1434 * 4) = 5736 KB, which is too small compared
with 12 GB total ZONE_MOVABLE size.  That is, before reaching min or low
watermark, we will allocate almost same number of ZONE_MOVABLE pages:
~12GB vs. ~(12GB - 5MB).

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

>> Signed-off-by: liuq <liuq131@chinatelecom.cn>
>> ---
>>   mm/page_alloc.c | 12 ++++++------
>>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index 47421bedc12b..590ed8725e09 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -6362,9 +6362,9 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>   	struct zone *zone;
>>   	unsigned long flags;
>>   -	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM pages */
>> +	/* Calculate total number of !ZONE_HIGHMEM and !ZONE_MOVABLE pages */
>>   	for_each_zone(zone) {
>> -		if (!is_highmem(zone))
>> +		if (!is_highmem(zone) && zone_idx(zone) != ZONE_MOVABLE)
>>   			lowmem_pages += zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>   	}
>>   @@ -6374,15 +6374,15 @@ static void __setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
>>   		spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lock, flags);
>>   		tmp = (u64)pages_min * zone_managed_pages(zone);
>>   		do_div(tmp, lowmem_pages);
>> -		if (is_highmem(zone)) {
>> +		if (is_highmem(zone) || zone_idx(zone) == ZONE_MOVABLE) {
>>   			/*
>>   			 * __GFP_HIGH and PF_MEMALLOC allocations usually don't
>> -			 * need highmem pages, so cap pages_min to a small
>> -			 * value here.
>> +			 * need highmem and movable zones pages, so cap pages_min
>> +			 * to a small  value here.
>>   			 *
>>   			 * The WMARK_HIGH-WMARK_LOW and (WMARK_LOW-WMARK_MIN)
>>   			 * deltas control async page reclaim, and so should
>> -			 * not be capped for highmem.
>> +			 * not be capped for highmem and movable zones.
>>   			 */
>>   			unsigned long min_pages;
>>   


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