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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [RFC RESEND 00/16] Split IOMMU DMA mapping operation to two steps
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:14:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240306221400.GA8663@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240306174456.GO9225@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 01:44:56PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> There is a list of interesting cases this has to cover:
> 
>  1. Direct map. No dma_addr_t at unmap, multiple HW SGLs
>  2. IOMMU aligned map, no P2P. Only IOVA range at unmap, single HW SGLs
>  3. IOMMU aligned map, P2P. Only IOVA range at unmap, multiple HW SGLs
>  4. swiotlb single range. Only IOVA range at unmap, single HW SGL
>  5. swiotlb multi-range. All dma_addr_t's at unmap, multiple HW SGLs.
>  6. Unaligned IOMMU. Only IOVA range at unmap, multiple HW SGLs
> 
> I think we agree that 1 and 2 should be optimized highly as they are
> the common case. That mainly means no dma_addr_t storage in either

I don't think you can do without dma_addr_t storage.  In most cases
your can just store the dma_addr_t in the LE/BE encoded hardware
SGL, so no extra storage should be needed though.

> 3 is quite similar to 1, but it has the IOVA range at unmap.

Can you explain what P2P case you mean?  The switch one with the
bus address is indeed basically the same, just with potentioally a
different offset, while the through host bridge case is the same
as a normal iommu map.

> 
> 4 is basically the same as 2 from the driver's viewpoint

I'd actually treat it the same as one.

> 5 is the slowest and has the most overhead.

and 5 could be broken into multiple 4s at least for now.  Or do you
have a different dfinition of range here?

> So are you thinking something more like a driver flow of:
> 
>   .. extent IO and get # aligned pages and know if there is P2P ..
>   dma_init_io(state, num_pages, p2p_flag)
>   if (dma_io_single_range(state)) {
>        // #2, #4
>        for each io()
> 	    dma_link_aligned_pages(state, io range)
>        hw_sgl = (state->iova, state->len)
>   } else {

I think what you have a dma_io_single_range should become before
the dma_init_io.  If we know we can't coalesce it really just is a
dma_map_{single,page,bvec} loop, no need for any extra state.

And we're back to roughly the proposal I sent out years ago.

> This is not quite what you said, we split the driver flow based on
> needing 1 HW SGL vs need many HW SGL.

That's at least what I intended to say, and I'm a little curious as what
it came across.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05 11:18 [RFC RESEND 00/16] Split IOMMU DMA mapping operation to two steps Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 01/16] mm/hmm: let users to tag specific PFNs Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 02/16] dma-mapping: provide an interface to allocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 03/16] dma-mapping: provide callbacks to link/unlink pages to specific IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 04/16] iommu/dma: Provide an interface to allow preallocate IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 05/16] iommu/dma: Prepare map/unmap page functions to receive IOVA Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 06/16] iommu/dma: Implement link/unlink page callbacks Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 07/16] RDMA/umem: Preallocate and cache IOVA for UMEM ODP Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 08/16] RDMA/umem: Store ODP access mask information in PFN Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 09/16] RDMA/core: Separate DMA mapping to caching IOVA and page linkage Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 10/16] RDMA/umem: Prevent UMEM ODP creation with SWIOTLB Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 11/16] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly use number of pages instead of allocated length Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 12/16] vfio/mlx5: Rewrite create mkey flow to allow better code reuse Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 13/16] vfio/mlx5: Explicitly store page list Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 14/16] vfio/mlx5: Convert vfio to use DMA link API Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 15/16] block: add dma_link_range() based API Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 11:18 ` [RFC RESEND 16/16] nvme-pci: use blk_rq_dma_map() for NVMe SGL Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-05 15:51   ` Keith Busch
2024-03-05 16:08     ` Jens Axboe
2024-03-05 16:39       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-03-05 16:46         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2024-03-06 14:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-06 15:05       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-06 16:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-03 14:41   ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-05-05 13:23     ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-05-06  7:25       ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-03-05 12:05 ` [RFC RESEND 00/16] Split IOMMU DMA mapping operation to two steps Robin Murphy
2024-03-05 12:29   ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-06 14:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-06 15:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-06 16:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-06 17:44           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-06 22:14             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2024-03-07  0:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-07 15:05                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-07 21:01                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-08 16:49                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-08 20:23                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-09 16:14                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-10  9:35                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-12 21:28                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-13  7:46                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-13 21:44                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-19 15:36                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-20  8:55                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-21 22:40                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-22 17:46                                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-03-24 23:16                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-21 22:39                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-22 18:43                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-24 23:22                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-27 17:14                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-07  6:01 ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-04-09 20:39   ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-05-02 23:32 ` Zeng, Oak
2024-05-03 11:57   ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-05-03 16:42   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-03 20:59     ` Zeng, Oak

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