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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order()
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:36:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d389825-1fc0-5c16-7858-2290fd632682@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufbpCU_Z7g1QPJ0+HzE9sdNpSh=Mzi0EByLPu5TE4S_UcQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/07/2023 04:59, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 9:02 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:23 PM Yin, Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2023 9:53 PM, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> arch_wants_pte_order() can be overridden by the arch to return the
>>>> preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. This is useful as some
>>>> architectures (e.g. arm64) can coalesce TLB entries when the physical
>>>> memory is suitably contiguous.
>>>>
>>>> The first user for this hint will be FLEXIBLE_THP, which aims to
>>>> allocate large folios for anonymous memory to reduce page faults and
>>>> other per-page operation costs.
>>>>
>>>> Here we add the default implementation of the function, used when the
>>>> architecture does not define it, which returns the order corresponding
>>>> to 64K.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  include/linux/pgtable.h | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> index a661a17173fa..f7e38598f20b 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>> @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/errno.h>
>>>>  #include <asm-generic/pgtable_uffd.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/page_table_check.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/sizes.h>
>>>>
>>>>  #if 5 - defined(__PAGETABLE_P4D_FOLDED) - defined(__PAGETABLE_PUD_FOLDED) - \
>>>>       defined(__PAGETABLE_PMD_FOLDED) != CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS
>>>> @@ -336,6 +337,18 @@ static inline bool arch_has_hw_pte_young(void)
>>>>  }
>>>>  #endif
>>>>
>>>> +#ifndef arch_wants_pte_order
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * Returns preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. Must be in range [0,
>>>> + * PMD_SHIFT-PAGE_SHIFT) and must not be order-1 since THP requires large folios
>>>> + * to be at least order-2.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static inline int arch_wants_pte_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>>>> +{
>>>> +     return ilog2(SZ_64K >> PAGE_SHIFT);
>>> Default value which is not related with any silicon may be: PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER?
>>>
>>> Also, current pcp list support cache page with order 0...PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, 9.
>>> If the pcp could cover the page, the pressure to zone lock will be reduced by pcp.
>>
>> The value of PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is reasonable but again it's a
>> s/w policy not a h/w preference. Besides, I don't think we can include
>> mmzone.h in pgtable.h.
> 
> I think we can make a compromise:
> 1. change the default implementation of arch_has_hw_pte_young() to return 0, and
> 2. in memory.c, we can try PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER for archs that
> don't override arch_has_hw_pte_young(), or if its return value is too
> large to fit.
> This should also take care of the regression, right?

I think you are suggesting that we use 0 as a sentinel which we then translate
to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER? I already have a max_anon_folio_order() function in
memory.c (actually it is currently a macro defined as arch_wants_pte_order()).

So it would become (I'll talk about the vma concern separately in the thread
where you raised it):

static inline int max_anon_folio_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
{
	int order = arch_wants_pte_order(vma);

	return order ? order : PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER;
}

Correct?

I don't see how it fixes the regression (assume you're talking about
Speedometer) though? On arm64 arch_wants_pte_order() will still be returning
order-4.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-04 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03 13:53 [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:05   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:13     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 11:19       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:14   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07  8:21   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:42     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  5:37       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:29         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:01           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  1:56               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:50   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 13:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  2:07       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 17:24           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 18:01             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-06 19:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 10:00           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  3:02     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:59       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  5:22         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  5:42           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 12:36         ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-07-04 13:23           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  1:40             ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  1:23           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  2:18             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: FLEXIBLE_THP for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 15:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-03 16:01   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-04  1:35   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 14:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:47       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:45   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 14:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:35       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-04 23:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05  9:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 12:08           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07  8:01   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:52     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:57         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 14:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 15:13             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 16:06               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 16:22                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 19:06                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10  8:41                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  3:03               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:55                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:25                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  0:48                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  2:49           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 20:02   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  6:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  7:11     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 15:36       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:52         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-05  0:21           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 10:16             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 19:00               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 19:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:02   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 13:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 10:07           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 16:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 16:53           ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 15:49             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-19 16:05               ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 18:37                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 21:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-11 21:59           ` Matthew Wilcox

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