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From: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order()
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 10:18:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73477bde-b633-c219-9db4-d0c07c1bb781@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufZY-zN8jjQz+iMzwmqMb2VCh7=N+YxfXobgF7i1zUmTNA@mail.gmail.com>



On 7/5/23 09:23, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 6:36 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 04/07/2023 04:59, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 9:02 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:23 PM Yin, Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/3/2023 9:53 PM, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>>>> arch_wants_pte_order() can be overridden by the arch to return the
>>>>>> preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. This is useful as some
>>>>>> architectures (e.g. arm64) can coalesce TLB entries when the physical
>>>>>> memory is suitably contiguous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first user for this hint will be FLEXIBLE_THP, which aims to
>>>>>> allocate large folios for anonymous memory to reduce page faults and
>>>>>> other per-page operation costs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here we add the default implementation of the function, used when the
>>>>>> architecture does not define it, which returns the order corresponding
>>>>>> to 64K.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  include/linux/pgtable.h | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>>>> index a661a17173fa..f7e38598f20b 100644
>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>>>>>> @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
>>>>>>  #include <linux/errno.h>
>>>>>>  #include <asm-generic/pgtable_uffd.h>
>>>>>>  #include <linux/page_table_check.h>
>>>>>> +#include <linux/sizes.h>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  #if 5 - defined(__PAGETABLE_P4D_FOLDED) - defined(__PAGETABLE_PUD_FOLDED) - \
>>>>>>       defined(__PAGETABLE_PMD_FOLDED) != CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS
>>>>>> @@ -336,6 +337,18 @@ static inline bool arch_has_hw_pte_young(void)
>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>  #endif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +#ifndef arch_wants_pte_order
>>>>>> +/*
>>>>>> + * Returns preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. Must be in range [0,
>>>>>> + * PMD_SHIFT-PAGE_SHIFT) and must not be order-1 since THP requires large folios
>>>>>> + * to be at least order-2.
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +static inline int arch_wants_pte_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +     return ilog2(SZ_64K >> PAGE_SHIFT);
>>>>> Default value which is not related with any silicon may be: PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, current pcp list support cache page with order 0...PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, 9.
>>>>> If the pcp could cover the page, the pressure to zone lock will be reduced by pcp.
>>>>
>>>> The value of PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is reasonable but again it's a
>>>> s/w policy not a h/w preference. Besides, I don't think we can include
>>>> mmzone.h in pgtable.h.
>>>
>>> I think we can make a compromise:
>>> 1. change the default implementation of arch_has_hw_pte_young() to return 0, and
>>> 2. in memory.c, we can try PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER for archs that
>>> don't override arch_has_hw_pte_young(), or if its return value is too
>>> large to fit.
>>> This should also take care of the regression, right?
>>
>> I think you are suggesting that we use 0 as a sentinel which we then translate
>> to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER? I already have a max_anon_folio_order() function in
>> memory.c (actually it is currently a macro defined as arch_wants_pte_order()).
>>
>> So it would become (I'll talk about the vma concern separately in the thread
>> where you raised it):
>>
>> static inline int max_anon_folio_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>> {
>>         int order = arch_wants_pte_order(vma);
>>
>>         return order ? order : PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER;
>> }
>>
>> Correct?
>>
>> I don't see how it fixes the regression (assume you're talking about
>> Speedometer) though? On arm64 arch_wants_pte_order() will still be returning
>> order-4.
> 
> Here is what I was actually suggesting -- I think the problem was
> because contpte is a bit too large for that benchmark and for the page
> allocator too, unfortunately. The following allows one retry (32KB)
> before fallback to order 0 when using contpte (64KB). There is no
> retry for HPA (16KB) and other archs.
> 
> +       int preferred = arch_wants_pte_order(vma) ? : PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER;
> +       int orders[] = {
> +               preferred,
> +               preferred > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER ?
> PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER : 0,
> +               0,
> +       };
> 
> I'm attaching a patch which fills in the two helpers I left empty here [1].
> 
> Would the above work for Intel, Fengwei?
PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is Intel preferred because it fits the most common
Intel system. So yes. This works for Intel.


Regards
Yin, Fengwei

> 
> (AMD wouldn't need to override arch_wants_pte_order() since PTE
> coalescing on Zen is also PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER.)
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAOUHufaK82K8Sa35T7z3=gkm4GB0cWD3aqeZF6mYx82v7cOTeA@mail.gmail.com/2-anon_folios.patch


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-05  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03 13:53 [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:05   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:13     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 11:19       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:14   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07  8:21   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:42     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  5:37       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:29         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:01           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  1:56               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:50   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 13:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  2:07       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 17:24           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 18:01             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-06 19:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 10:00           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  3:02     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:59       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  5:22         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  5:42           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 12:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 13:23           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  1:40             ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  1:23           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  2:18             ` Yin Fengwei [this message]
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: FLEXIBLE_THP for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 15:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-03 16:01   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-04  1:35   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 14:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:47       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:45   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 14:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:35       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-04 23:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05  9:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 12:08           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07  8:01   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:52     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:57         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 14:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 15:13             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 16:06               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 16:22                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 19:06                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10  8:41                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  3:03               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:55                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:25                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  0:48                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  2:49           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 20:02   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  6:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  7:11     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 15:36       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:52         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-05  0:21           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 10:16             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 19:00               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 19:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:02   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 13:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 10:07           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 16:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 16:53           ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 15:49             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-19 16:05               ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 18:37                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 21:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-11 21:59           ` Matthew Wilcox

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