From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move()
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 20:39:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkqS4Lf6oCjeNp7K17Qok_B8w26V9ywbTtdpXvUD_OcuUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkqTz9aNE=thZR2sw2SVf2YWOLCmSNgmEOJD587s+28A1w@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 8:25 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 7:57 PM John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/27/22 19:14, Yang Shi wrote:
> > > IIRC, the writeback may not call generic_writepages. On my ext4
> > > filesystem, the writeback call stack looks like:
> > >
> > > @[
> > > ext4_writepages+1
> > > do_writepages+191
> > > __writeback_single_inode+65
> > > writeback_sb_inodes+477
> > > __writeback_inodes_wb+76
> > > wb_writeback+457
> > > wb_workfn+680
> > > process_one_work+485
> > > worker_thread+80
> > > kthread+231
> > > ret_from_fork+34
> > > ]: 2
> > >
> >
> > Sure, that's fine for ext4, in that particular case, but
> >
> > a) not all filesystems have .writepages hooked up. That's why
> > do_writepages() checks for .writepages(), and falls back to
> > .writepage():
> >
> > if (mapping->a_ops->writepages)
> > ret = mapping->a_ops->writepages(mapping, wbc);
> > else
> > ret = generic_writepages(mapping, wbc);
> >
> > , and
> >
> > b) there are also a lot of places and ways to invoke writebacks. There
> > are periodic writebacks, and there are data integrity (WB_SYNC_ALL)
> > writebacks, and other places where a page needs to be cleaned--so, a lot
> > of call sites. Some of which will land on a .writepage() sometimes, even
> > now.
> >
> > For just one example, I see migrate.c's writeout() function directly
> > calling writepage():
> >
> > rc = mapping->a_ops->writepage(&folio->page, &wbc);
>
> Thanks, John. You are right. I think "deprecated" is inaccurate,
> .writepage is actually no longer used in memory reclaim context, but
> it is still used for other contexts.
Hmm.. it is definitely used currently, but it seems like the plan is
to deprecate ->writepage finally IIUC. See
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/YvQYjpDHH5KckCrw@casper.infradead.org/
>
> Anyway I think what we tried to figure out in the first place is
> whether it is possible that filesystem writeback have dead lock with
> the new batch migration or not. I think the conclusion didn't change.
>
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > --
> > John Hubbard
> > NVIDIA
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-28 3:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-21 6:06 [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Huang Ying
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm/migrate_pages: separate huge page and normal pages migration Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:55 ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22 1:14 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 6:03 ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-22 6:22 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move() Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:08 ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22 1:15 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 6:36 ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-26 9:28 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-26 18:06 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 0:02 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 1:51 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 20:34 ` John Hubbard
2022-09-27 20:57 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28 0:59 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-28 1:41 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28 1:44 ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28 1:49 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28 1:56 ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28 2:14 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28 2:57 ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28 3:25 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28 3:39 ` Yang Shi [this message]
2022-09-27 20:56 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:54 ` Yang Shi
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm/migrate_pages: restrict number of pages to migrate in batch Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:10 ` Zi Yan
2022-09-21 16:15 ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22 1:15 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch _unmap and _move Huang Ying
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm/migrate_pages: share more code between " Huang Ying
2022-09-21 6:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch flushing TLB Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:47 ` [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Zi Yan
2022-09-22 1:45 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 3:47 ` haoxin
2022-09-22 4:36 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 12:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-23 7:52 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 10:46 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-28 1:46 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-26 9:11 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 11:21 ` haoxin
2022-09-28 2:01 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28 3:33 ` haoxin
2022-09-28 4:53 ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-01 14:49 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-11-02 3:14 ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-02 14:13 ` Hesham Almatary
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