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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Ronald Monthero <debug.penguin32@gmail.com>,
	sjenning@redhat.com, ddstreet@ieee.org,
	 vitaly.wool@konsulko.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	chrisl@kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/zswap: Improve with alloc_workqueue() call
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:30:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJD7tkb_uC_K7+C3GjVqg1rDRCmUkbHcEw950CkUHG66yokbcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=PjraCg_NjP4Tnkbv8uqnVw8yJGh-mbuZC02Gp6HMcDBw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:14 AM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:32 AM Ronald Monthero
> <debug.penguin32@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> + Johannes and Yosry
>
> >
> > The core-api create_workqueue is deprecated, this patch replaces
> > the create_workqueue with alloc_workqueue. The previous
> > implementation workqueue of zswap was a bounded workqueue, this
> > patch uses alloc_workqueue() to create an unbounded workqueue.
> > The WQ_UNBOUND attribute is desirable making the workqueue
> > not localized to a specific cpu so that the scheduler is free
> > to exercise improvisations in any demanding scenarios for
> > offloading cpu time slices for workqueues.
>
> nit: extra space between paragraph would be nice.
>
> > For example if any other workqueues of the same primary cpu
> > had to be served which are WQ_HIGHPRI and WQ_CPU_INTENSIVE.
> > Also Unbound workqueue happens to be more efficient
> > in a system during memory pressure scenarios in comparison
> >  to a bounded workqueue.
> >
> > shrink_wq = alloc_workqueue("zswap-shrink",
> >                      WQ_UNBOUND|WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, 1);
> >
> > Overall the change suggested in this patch should be
> > seamless and does not alter the existing behavior,
> > other than the improvisation to be an unbounded workqueue.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ronald Monthero <debug.penguin32@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  mm/zswap.c | 3 ++-
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/zswap.c b/mm/zswap.c
> > index 74411dfdad92..64dbe3e944a2 100644
> > --- a/mm/zswap.c
> > +++ b/mm/zswap.c
> > @@ -1620,7 +1620,8 @@ static int zswap_setup(void)
> >                 zswap_enabled = false;
> >         }
> >
> > -       shrink_wq = create_workqueue("zswap-shrink");
> > +       shrink_wq = alloc_workqueue("zswap-shrink",
> > +                       WQ_UNBOUND|WQ_MEM_RECLAIM, 1);
>
> Have you benchmarked this to check if there is any regression, just to
> be safe? With an unbounded workqueue, you're gaining scheduling
> flexibility at the cost of cache locality. My intuition is that it
> doesn't matter too much here, but you should probably double check by
> stress testing - run some workload with a relatively small zswap pool
> limit (i.e heavy global writeback), and see if there is any difference
> in performance.

I also think this shouldn't make a large difference. The global
shrinking work is already expensive, and I imagine that it exhausts
the caches anyway by iterating memcgs. A performance smoketest would
be reassuring for sure, but I believe it won't make a difference.

Keep in mind that even with WQ_UNBOUND, we prefer the local CPU (see
wq_select_unbound_cpu()), so it will take more than global writeback
to observe a difference. The local CPU must not be in
wq_unbound_cpumask, or CONFIG_DEBUG_WQ_FORCE_RR_CPU should be on.

>
> >         if (!shrink_wq)
> >                 goto fallback_fail;
> >
> > --
> > 2.34.1
> >
>
> On a different note, I wonder if it would help to perform synchronous
> reclaim here instead. With our current design, the zswap store failure
> (due to global limit hit) would leave the incoming page going to swap
> instead, creating an LRU inversion. Not sure if that's ideal.

The global shrink path keeps reclaiming until zswap can accept again
(by default, that means reclaiming 10% of the total limit). I think
this is too expensive to be done synchronously.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-17 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-11  5:28 [PATCH] mm/zswap: Improve with alloc_workqueue() call Ronald Monthero
2023-12-11 14:15 ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-13 13:20   ` Ronald Monthero
2023-12-14  0:28     ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-14  1:02       ` Nhat Pham
2023-12-15  9:03       ` Ronald Monthero
2023-12-20  0:21         ` Nhat Pham
2024-01-16 13:31           ` Ronald Monthero
2024-01-17 19:13             ` Nhat Pham
2024-01-17 19:30               ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2024-01-18 16:16                 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-01-18 16:48                   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-01-18 17:03                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 18:08                       ` Nhat Pham
2024-01-18 17:06                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 17:39                     ` Johannes Weiner
2024-01-18 18:03                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-01-18 18:32                       ` Nhat Pham
2024-02-21 13:32                         ` Ronald Monthero
2024-01-18 18:03               ` Nhat Pham

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