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From: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Liam Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	 Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	 Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/10] mmap locking API: add mmap_read_trylock_non_owner()
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:55:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANN689EKUoD5xTVk7V49sU3BcZ1Ntp+zkAubmxRADeioju1ioA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200420192322.GD5820@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 02:22:11PM -0400, Daniel Jordan wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:43:50PM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> > > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c b/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
> > > index 11d41f0c7005..998968659892 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/bpf/stackmap.c
> > > @@ -317,7 +316,7 @@ static void stack_map_get_build_id_offset(struct bpf_stack_build_id *id_offs,
> > >      * with build_id.
> > >      */
> > >     if (!user || !current || !current->mm || irq_work_busy ||
> > > -       mmap_read_trylock(current->mm) == 0) {
> > > +       !mmap_read_trylock_non_owner(current->mm)) {
> > >             /* cannot access current->mm, fall back to ips */
> > >             for (i = 0; i < trace_nr; i++) {
> > >                     id_offs[i].status = BPF_STACK_BUILD_ID_IP;
> > > @@ -342,16 +341,10 @@ static void stack_map_get_build_id_offset(struct bpf_stack_build_id *id_offs,
> > >     }
> > >
> > >     if (!work) {
> > > -           mmap_read_unlock(current->mm);
> > > +           mmap_read_unlock_non_owner(current->mm);
> >
> > These 'non_owner' calls are not intuitive because current _is the owner, so the
> > v3 version seems better, even if it adds a special wrapper for rwsem_release.
> >
> > Though it makes some sense if you think, "we're consistently using the
> > non_owner APIs because there's a legitimate use somewhere else," so I'm fine
> > either way.
>
> I'm not really a big fan of v3 nor v4.  What I'd like to see is a
> 'transfer of ownership' API.  This could be to a different task, IRQ work,
> RCU, softirq, timer, ...
>
> That would let us track locking dependencies across complex flows, eg this
> wouldn't be warned about right now:
>
> rcu_work():
>         lock(C)
>         kfree(B)
>         unlock(A)
>         unlock(C)
>
> thread 1:
>         lock(A)
>         call_rcu(B)
>
> thread 2:
>         lock(C)
>         synchronize_rcu()
>         unlock(C)
>
> but if we had an API that transferred ownership of A to RCU, then we'd
> see the C->RCU->A->C cycle.
>
> This is perhaps a bit much work to require of Laurent in order to get
> this patchset merged, but something to think about.

I think fundamentally, lockdep is better suited at handling locks that
are owned by a given task. I think extending lockdep just for the bpf
stacktrace use case would be way overkill ?

But yes, I agree that declining ownership as we do here leaves us open
to having lock dependency issues that lockdep won't diagnose.

-- 
Michel "Walken" Lespinasse
A program is never fully debugged until the last user dies.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-21  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15  0:43 [PATCH v4 00/10] Add a new mmap locking API wrapping mmap_sem calls Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] mmap locking API: initial implementation as rwsem wrappers Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 19:48   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2020-04-21  0:48     ` Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] MMU notifier: use the new mmap locking API Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 19:51   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] DMA reservations: " Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] mmap locking API: use coccinelle to convert mmap_sem rwsem call sites Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] mmap locking API: convert mmap_sem call sites missed by coccinelle Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] mmap locking API: convert nested write lock sites Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 18:19   ` Daniel Jordan
2020-04-20 19:33   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-21  0:51     ` Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] mmap locking API: add mmap_read_trylock_non_owner() Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 18:22   ` Daniel Jordan
2020-04-20 19:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-21  0:55       ` Michel Lespinasse [this message]
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mmap locking API: add MMAP_LOCK_INITIALIZER Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 18:23   ` Daniel Jordan
2020-04-20 19:28   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-21  0:57     ` Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] mmap locking API: use lockdep_assert_held Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-21  2:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-04-15  0:43 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] mmap locking API: rename mmap_sem to mmap_lock Michel Lespinasse
2020-04-20 18:28   ` Daniel Jordan
2020-04-21  5:33   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-21 22:19     ` Michel Lespinasse

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