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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	"Longpeng (Mike,
	Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)"
	<longpeng2@huawei.com>,
	Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [private] Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:30:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbaf0a30-b0d0-1922-92ca-9dca632a0892@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ebdfe4-22ee-9a9a-9d06-8305290d9bc9@redhat.com>

On 16.08.21 14:27, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 16.08.21 14:07, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:02:22AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Mappings within this address range behave as if they were shared
>>>> between threads, so a write to a MAP_PRIVATE mapping will create a
>>>> page which is shared between all the sharers. The first process that
>>>> declares an address range mshare'd can continue to map objects in the
>>>> shared area. All other processes that want mshare'd access to this
>>>> memory area can do so by calling mshare(). After this call, the
>>>> address range given by mshare becomes a shared range in its address
>>>> space. Anonymous mappings will be shared and not COWed.
>>>
>>> Did I understand correctly that you want to share actual page tables between
>>> processes and consequently different MMs? That sounds like a very bad idea.
>>
>> That is the entire point.  Consider a machine with 10,000 instances
>> of an application running (process model, not thread model).  If each
>> application wants to map 1TB of RAM using 2MB pages, that's 4MB of page
>> tables per process or 40GB of RAM for the whole machine.
> 
> Note that I am working on asynchronous reclaim of page tables, whereby I
> would even reclaim !anonymous page tables under memory pressure.
> 
> Assuming your processes don't touch all memory all the time of course
> ... of course, it's a research project and will still require quite some
> work because devil is in the detail (locking).
> 

Well, that comment did turn out not-so-private, so it's certainly a good 
discussion-starter.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-16 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-27 17:11 [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-27 18:00   ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-28 13:40     ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] elf: reintroduce using MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE for elf executable mappings Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm: do not assume only the stack vma exists in setup_arg_pages() Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm: introduce VM_EXEC_KEEP Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 13:38   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-28 17:44     ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-29 13:52   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-07-29 23:20     ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] exec, elf: require opt-in for accepting preserved mem Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-27 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm: introduce MADV_DOEXEC Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 13:22   ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-07-28 14:06     ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-28 11:34 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC Kirill Tkhai
2020-07-28 17:28   ` Anthony Yznaga
2020-07-28 14:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-28 14:30   ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 15:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 15:27   ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-30 15:34     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 15:54       ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-31  9:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-30 15:59   ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 17:12     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 17:35       ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 17:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-30 18:27           ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-30 21:58             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-07-31 14:57               ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 15:27                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-31 16:11                   ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 16:56                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-31 17:15                       ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 17:48                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-31 17:55                           ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 17:23                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 15:28                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-03 15:42                   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-03 20:03                     ` Steven Sistare
     [not found]                     ` <9371b8272fd84280ae40b409b260bab3@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2020-08-04 11:13                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-03 19:29                   ` Steven Sistare
2020-07-31 19:41 ` Steven Sistare
2021-07-08  9:52 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-07-08 12:48   ` Steven Sistare
2021-07-12  1:05     ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-07-12  1:30       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-13  0:57         ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-13 19:49           ` Khalid Aziz
2021-08-14 20:07             ` David Laight
2021-08-16  0:26               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-16  8:07                 ` David Laight
2021-08-16  6:54             ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-16  8:02             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:07               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 12:20                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:42                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:46                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 13:24                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 13:32                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 14:10                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 14:27                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 14:33                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 14:40                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 15:01                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 15:59                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 16:06                                     ` Khalid Aziz
2021-08-16 16:15                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-08-16 16:13                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:27                 ` [private] " David Hildenbrand
2021-08-16 12:30                   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-08-17  0:47                 ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-08-17  0:55                   ` Matthew Wilcox

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