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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: sedat.dilek@gmail.com,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	linux-next <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: linux-next: Tree for Feb 4
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:51:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150204235115.GP5370@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11131483.LrRNxJumiL@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 11:59:31PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 04, 2015 01:53:58 PM Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:54:07PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 04, 2015 09:18:03 PM Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > The next release I will be making will be next-20150209 - which will
> > > > > probably be after the v3.19 release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Changes since 20150203:
> > > > >
> > > > > The sound-asoc tree gained a conflict against the sound tree.
> > > > >
> > > > > The scsi tree gained a build failure caused by an interaction with the
> > > > > driver-core tree.  I applied a merge fix patch.
> > > > >
> > > > > The akpm-current tree gained a build failure for which I disabled
> > > > > CONFIG_KASAN.
> > > > >
> > > > > Non-merge commits (relative to Linus' tree): 7461
> > > > >  7314 files changed, 309736 insertions(+), 172363 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > [ CC linux-rcu | linux-pm | intel_pstate maintainers ]
> > > 
> > > Dirk is not the maintainer of intel_pstate any more, CC: Kristen.
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > after suspend-and-resume I see the following call-trace:
> > > 
> > > Do you see that after CPU1 offline too? 
> > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > [ 1144.482666] Disabling non-boot CPUs ...
> > > > [ 1144.483000] intel_pstate CPU 1 exiting
> > > > [ 1144.486064]
> > > > [ 1144.486065] ===============================
> > > > [ 1144.486067] smpboot: CPU 1 didn't die...
> > > > [ 1144.486067] [ INFO: suspicious RCU usage. ]
> > > > [ 1144.486069] 3.19.0-rc7-next-20150204.1-iniza-small #1 Not tainted
> > > > [ 1144.486070] -------------------------------
> > > > [ 1144.486072] include/trace/events/tlb.h:35 suspicious
> > > > rcu_dereference_check() usage!
> > > > [ 1144.486073]
> > > > [ 1144.486073] other info that might help us debug this:
> > > > [ 1144.486073]
> > > > [ 1144.486074]
> > > > [ 1144.486074] RCU used illegally from offline CPU!
> > > > [ 1144.486074] rcu_scheduler_active = 1, debug_locks = 0
> > > > [ 1144.486076] no locks held by swapper/1/0.
> > > > [ 1144.486076]
> > > > [ 1144.486076] stack backtrace:
> > > > [ 1144.486079] CPU: 1 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/1 Not tainted
> > > > 3.19.0-rc7-next-20150204.1-iniza-small #1
> > > > [ 1144.486080] Hardware name: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.
> > > > 530U3BI/530U4BI/530U4BH/530U3BI/530U4BI/530U4BH, BIOS 13XK 03/28/2013
> > > > [ 1144.486085]  0000000000000001 ffff88011a44fe18 ffffffff817e370d
> > > > 0000000000000011
> > > > [ 1144.486088]  ffff88011a448290 ffff88011a44fe48 ffffffff810d6847
> > > > ffff8800c66b9600
> > > > [ 1144.486091]  0000000000000001 ffff88011a44c000 ffffffff81cb3900
> > > > ffff88011a44fe78
> > > > [ 1144.486092] Call Trace:
> > > > [ 1144.486099]  [<ffffffff817e370d>] dump_stack+0x4c/0x65
> > > > [ 1144.486104]  [<ffffffff810d6847>] lockdep_rcu_suspicious+0xe7/0x120
> > 
> > As near as I can tell, idle_task_exit() is running on an offline CPU,
> > then calling switch_mm() which contains trace_tlb_flush(), which uses RCU.
> > And RCU is objecting to being used from a CPU that it is ignoring.
> > 
> > One approach would be to push RCU's idea of when the CPU goes offline
> > down into arch code in this case, using some Kconfig symbol and
> > the usual conditional compilation.  Another approach would be to
> > invoke the trace calls under cpu_online(), for example, for the
> > first such call in switch_mm():
> > 
> > 	if (cpu_online(smp_processor_id()))
> > 		trace_tlb_flush(TLB_FLUSH_ON_TASK_SWITCH, TLB_FLUSH_ALL);
> > 
> > The compiler would discard this if tracing was disabled.
> 
> That looks like less intrusive to me.

One possible concern is increased context-switch path length, but that
would only be the case where tracing is enabled by default.

> > Other thoughts?
> 
> Well, the whole issue here seems to be that common code using RCU is also
> useful in places where RCU doesn't want to be used.  Arguably, we can deal
> with all of those cases in a whack-a-mole manner, but that doesn't seem to
> scale too well.

Well, I did put a change into -next that makes these particular moles
stick their heads up farther, so this is not a random event.  And in
this particular case, we do have the option of extending RCU's reach to
cover this operation, at the expense of a bit more intrusion by RCU into
arch-specific code.  If tracing is enabled by default by major distros,
that might be the right thing to do, unappealing though it might be.

But yes, it would have been far better for RCU to have been picky to
begin with, so that these issues could have been addressed as the were
added to the kernel.  I guess one possible source of comfort is that once
this is in place, future issues will make themselves immediately apparent.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-04 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-04  8:35 linux-next: Tree for Feb 4 Stephen Rothwell
2015-02-04 12:26 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 15:16   ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-04 15:21     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 15:31       ` Jens Axboe
2015-02-04 15:36         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 15:58           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-02-04 16:06             ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  3:17               ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-02-05  3:41                 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 19:46                 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-06 15:24                   ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 20:18 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 21:54   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-04 21:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-04 22:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-04 23:51         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-02-04 23:58           ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  0:10           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05  0:30             ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  0:57               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05  1:18                 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  1:51                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05  1:53                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  2:12                       ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05  4:13                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05  7:14                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-02-05 14:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05 14:57                         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 16:58                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05 18:03                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 18:08                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 18:11                             ` Dave Hansen
2015-02-05 18:34                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05 18:35                                 ` Dave Hansen
2015-02-05 18:45                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05 19:25                                     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 19:33                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-05 19:42                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 19:58                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 20:07                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 20:22                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 20:50                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 21:45                                               ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 22:09                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 22:16                                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-05 23:11                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-05 23:53                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-06  0:03                                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-06  0:12                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-06  0:14                                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 22:38     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 23:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-04 23:54         ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 22:46     ` Sedat Dilek
2015-02-04 23:30       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-04 23:48         ` Sedat Dilek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-04  4:14 Stephen Rothwell
2021-02-04  9:13 Stephen Rothwell
2020-02-04  4:19 Stephen Rothwell
2019-02-04  5:35 Stephen Rothwell
2016-02-04  3:48 Stephen Rothwell
2014-02-04  5:07 Stephen Rothwell
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2014-02-04 22:23   ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-02-05  0:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-04  7:39 Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-04 13:56 ` James Hogan
2013-02-04 20:33   ` Stephen Rothwell

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