From: "Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
Cc: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
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Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
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Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device vma
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:33:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e0637ba-0d7c-66a5-d3de-bc1e7dc7c0ef@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190130080208.GC29665@lst.de>
Am 30.01.19 um 09:02 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 08:58:35PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 01:39:49PM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>>
>>> implement the mapping. And I don't think we should have 'special' vma's
>>> for this (though we may need something to ensure we don't get mapping
>>> requests mixed with different types of pages...).
>> I think Jerome explained the point here is to have a 'special vma'
>> rather than a 'special struct page' as, really, we don't need a
>> struct page at all to make this work.
>>
>> If I recall your earlier attempts at adding struct page for BAR
>> memory, it ran aground on issues related to O_DIRECT/sgls, etc, etc.
> Struct page is what makes O_DIRECT work, using sgls or biovecs, etc on
> it work. Without struct page none of the above can work at all. That
> is why we use struct page for backing BARs in the existing P2P code.
> Not that I'm a particular fan of creating struct page for this device
> memory, but without major invasive surgery to large parts of the kernel
> it is the only way to make it work.
The problem seems to be that struct page does two things:
1. Memory management for system memory.
2. The object to work with in the I/O layer.
This was done because a good part of that stuff overlaps, like reference
counting how often a page is used. The problem now is that this doesn't
work very well for device memory in some cases.
For example on GPUs you usually have a large amount of memory which is
not even accessible by the CPU. In other words you can't easily create a
struct page for it because you can't reference it with a physical CPU
address.
Maybe struct page should be split up into smaller structures? I mean
it's really overloaded with data.
Christian.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-30 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-29 17:47 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Device peer to peer (p2p) through vma jglisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] pci/p2p: add a function to test peer to peer capability jglisse
2019-01-29 18:24 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-01-29 19:53 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:44 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:56 ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-29 20:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:24 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:28 ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-30 10:25 ` Christian König
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] drivers/base: " jglisse
2019-01-29 18:26 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:54 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-01-29 19:56 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device vma jglisse
2019-01-29 18:36 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:11 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:24 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:44 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:43 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 7:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-29 19:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:50 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 20:44 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 23:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 0:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 4:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 15:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:39 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 20:57 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 21:30 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:50 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 22:58 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 23:47 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 1:17 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 2:48 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 4:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 8:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 15:49 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:45 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:01 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:52 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 23:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 8:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:37 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 19:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:19 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:35 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 19:44 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 17:17 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:22 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:00 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:43 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 20:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 21:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:30 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 22:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:47 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 22:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:52 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:35 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 8:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 10:33 ` Koenig, Christian [this message]
2019-01-30 15:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 17:32 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:05 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:13 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:50 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 8:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:03 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:48 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:11 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/hmm: add support for peer to peer to HMM device memory jglisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/hmm: add support for peer to peer to special device vma jglisse
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