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From: "Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v11 00/29] KVM: guest_memfd() and per-page attributes
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:50:16 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f98a32c-bd3d-4890-b757-4d2f67a3b1a7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZL6uMk/8UeuGj8CP@google.com>

Hi Sean,

On 7/24/2023 10:30 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, Nikunj A. Dadhania wrote:
>> On 7/19/2023 5:14 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> This is the next iteration of implementing fd-based (instead of vma-based)
>>> memory for KVM guests.  If you want the full background of why we are doing
>>> this, please go read the v10 cover letter[1].
>>>
>>> The biggest change from v10 is to implement the backing storage in KVM
>>> itself, and expose it via a KVM ioctl() instead of a "generic" sycall.
>>> See link[2] for details on why we pivoted to a KVM-specific approach.
>>>
>>> Key word is "biggest".  Relative to v10, there are many big changes.
>>> Highlights below (I can't remember everything that got changed at
>>> this point).
>>>
>>> Tagged RFC as there are a lot of empty changelogs, and a lot of missing
>>> documentation.  And ideally, we'll have even more tests before merging.
>>> There are also several gaps/opens (to be discussed in tomorrow's PUCK).
>>
>> As per our discussion on the PUCK call, here are the memory/NUMA accounting 
>> related observations that I had while working on SNP guest secure page migration:
>>
>> * gmem allocations are currently treated as file page allocations
>>   accounted to the kernel and not to the QEMU process.
> 
> We need to level set on terminology: these are all *stats*, not accounting.  That
> distinction matters because we have wiggle room on stats, e.g. we can probably get
> away with just about any definition of how guest_memfd memory impacts stats, so
> long as the information that is surfaced to userspace is useful and expected.
> 
> But we absolutely need to get accounting correct, specifically the allocations
> need to be correctly accounted in memcg.  And unless I'm missing something,
> nothing in here shows anything related to memcg.

I tried out memcg after creating a separate cgroup for the qemu process. Guest 
memory is accounted in memcg.

  $ egrep -w "file|file_thp|unevictable" memory.stat
  file 42978775040
  file_thp 42949672960
  unevictable 42953588736 

NUMA allocations are coming from right nodes as set by the numactl.

  $ egrep -w "file|file_thp|unevictable" memory.numa_stat
  file N0=0 N1=20480 N2=21489377280 N3=21489377280
  file_thp N0=0 N1=0 N2=21472739328 N3=21476933632
  unevictable N0=0 N1=0 N2=21474697216 N3=21478891520

> 
>>   Starting an SNP guest with 40G memory with memory interleave between
>>   Node2 and Node3
>>
>>   $ numactl -i 2,3 ./bootg_snp.sh
>>
>>     PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
>>  242179 root      20   0   40.4g  99580  51676 S  78.0   0.0   0:56.58 qemu-system-x86
>>
>>   -> Incorrect process resident memory and shared memory is reported
> 
> I don't know that I would call these "incorrect".  Shared memory definitely is
> correct, because by definition guest_memfd isn't shared.  RSS is less clear cut;
> gmem memory is resident in RAM, but if we show gmem in RSS then we'll end up with
> scenarios where RSS > VIRT, which will be quite confusing for unaware users (I'm
> assuming the 40g of VIRT here comes from QEMU mapping the shared half of gmem
> memslots).

I am not sure why will RSS exceed the VIRT, it should be at max 40G (assuming all the
memory is private)

As per my experiments with a hack below. MM_FILEPAGES does get accounted to RSS/SHR in top

    PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
   4339 root      20   0   40.4g  40.1g  40.1g S  76.7  16.0   0:13.83 qemu-system-x86

diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index f456f3b5049c..5b1f48a2e714 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -166,6 +166,7 @@ void mm_trace_rss_stat(struct mm_struct *mm, int member)
 {
        trace_rss_stat(mm, member);
 }
+EXPORT_SYMBOL(mm_trace_rss_stat);

 /*
  * Note: this doesn't free the actual pages themselves. That
diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_mem.c b/virt/kvm/guest_mem.c
index a7e926af4255..e4f268bf9ce2 100644
--- a/virt/kvm/guest_mem.c
+++ b/virt/kvm/guest_mem.c
@@ -91,6 +91,10 @@ static struct folio *kvm_gmem_get_folio(struct file *file, pgoff_t index)
                        clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
        }

+       /* Account only once for the first time */
+       if (!folio_test_dirty(folio))
+               add_mm_counter(current->mm, MM_FILEPAGES, folio_nr_pages(folio));
+
        folio_mark_accessed(folio);
        folio_mark_dirty(folio);
        folio_mark_uptodate(folio);

We can update the rss_stat appropriately to get correct reporting in userspace.

>>   Accounting of the memory happens in the host page fault handler path,
>>   but for private guest pages we will never hit that.
>>
>> * NUMA allocation does use the process mempolicy for appropriate node 
>>   allocation (Node2 and Node3), but they again do not get attributed to 
>>   the QEMU process
>>
>>   Every 1.0s: sudo numastat  -m -p qemu-system-x86 | egrep -i "qemu|PID|Node|Filepage"   gomati: Mon Jul 24 11:51:34 2023
>>
>>   Per-node process memory usage (in MBs)
>>   PID                               Node 0          Node 1          Node 2          Node 3           Total
>>   242179 (qemu-system-x86)           21.14            1.61           39.44           39.38          101.57
>>
>>   Per-node system memory usage (in MBs):
>>                             Node 0          Node 1          Node 2          Node 3           Total
>>   FilePages                2475.63         2395.83        23999.46        23373.22        52244.14
>>
>>
>> * Most of the memory accounting relies on the VMAs and as private-fd of 
>>   gmem doesn't have a VMA(and that was the design goal), user-space fails 
>>   to attribute the memory appropriately to the process.
>>
>>   /proc/<qemu pid>/numa_maps
>>   7f528be00000 interleave:2-3 file=/memfd:memory-backend-memfd-shared\040(deleted) anon=1070 dirty=1070 mapped=1987 mapmax=256 active=1956 N2=582 N3=1405 kernelpagesize_kB=4
>>   7f5c90200000 interleave:2-3 file=/memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared\040(deleted)
>>   7f5c90400000 interleave:2-3 file=/memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared\040(deleted) dirty=32 active=0 N2=32 kernelpagesize_kB=4
>>   7f5c90800000 interleave:2-3 file=/memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared\040(deleted) dirty=892 active=0 N2=512 N3=380 kernelpagesize_kB=4
>>
>>   /proc/<qemu pid>/smaps
>>   7f528be00000-7f5c8be00000 rw-p 00000000 00:01 26629                      /memfd:memory-backend-memfd-shared (deleted)
>>   7f5c90200000-7f5c90220000 rw-s 00000000 00:01 44033                      /memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared (deleted)
>>   7f5c90400000-7f5c90420000 rw-s 00000000 00:01 44032                      /memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared (deleted)
>>   7f5c90800000-7f5c90b7c000 rw-s 00000000 00:01 1025                       /memfd:rom-backend-memfd-shared (deleted)
> 
> This is all expected, and IMO correct.  There are no userspace mappings, and so
> not accounting anything is working as intended.
Doesn't sound that correct, if 10 SNP guests are running each using 10GB, how would we know who is using 100GB of memory?

> 
>> * QEMU based NUMA bindings will not work. Memory backend uses mbind() 
>>   to set the policy for a particular virtual memory range but gmem 
>>   private-FD does not have a virtual memory range visible in the host.
> 
> Yes, adding a generic fbind() is the way to solve silve.

Regards,
Nikunj


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Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-18 23:44 [RFC PATCH v11 00/29] KVM: guest_memfd() and per-page attributes Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 01/29] KVM: Wrap kvm_gfn_range.pte in a per-action union Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 13:39   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-07-19 15:39     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 16:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-26 20:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21  6:26   ` Yan Zhao
2023-07-21 10:45     ` Xu Yilun
2023-07-25 18:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 02/29] KVM: Tweak kvm_hva_range and hva_handler_t to allow reusing for gfn ranges Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 17:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 03/29] KVM: Use gfn instead of hva for mmu_notifier_retry Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 17:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 04/29] KVM: PPC: Drop dead code related to KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 17:34   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 05/29] KVM: Convert KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_MMU_NOTIFIER Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19  7:31   ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-19 14:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-20  1:15       ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 06/29] KVM: Introduce KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21  9:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-28  9:25   ` Quentin Perret
2023-07-29  0:03     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-31  9:30       ` Quentin Perret
2023-07-31 15:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 07/29] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19  7:54   ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-19 14:16     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 08/29] KVM: Introduce per-page memory attributes Sean Christopherson
2023-07-20  8:09   ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-20 19:02     ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-07-20 20:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 10:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-21 15:56   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-07-24  4:43   ` Xu Yilun
2023-07-26 15:59     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-27  3:24       ` Xu Yilun
2023-08-02 20:31   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-08-14  0:44   ` Binbin Wu
2023-08-14 21:54     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 09/29] KVM: x86: Disallow hugepages when memory attributes are mixed Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 11:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-21 17:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 10/29] mm: Add AS_UNMOVABLE to mark mapping as completely unmovable Sean Christopherson
2023-07-25 10:24   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2023-07-25 12:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-26 11:36       ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2023-07-28 16:02       ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-07-28 16:13         ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-09-01  8:23       ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 11/29] security: Export security_inode_init_security_anon() for use by KVM Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19  2:14   ` Paul Moore
2023-07-31 10:46   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 12/29] KVM: Add KVM_CREATE_GUEST_MEMFD ioctl() for guest-specific backing memory Sean Christopherson
2023-07-19 17:21   ` Vishal Annapurve
2023-07-19 17:47     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-20 14:45   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-07-20 15:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-20 21:28   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-07-21  6:13   ` Yuan Yao
2023-07-21 22:27     ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-07-21 22:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:05   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-07-21 15:42     ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-07-21 17:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 17:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-21 17:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-25 15:09   ` Wang, Wei W
2023-07-25 16:03     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-26  1:51       ` Wang, Wei W
2023-07-31 16:23       ` Fuad Tabba
2023-07-26 17:18   ` Elliot Berman
2023-07-26 19:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-27 10:39   ` Fuad Tabba
2023-07-27 17:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-31 13:46       ` Fuad Tabba
2023-08-03 19:15   ` Ryan Afranji
2023-08-07 23:06   ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-08 21:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-10 23:57       ` Vishal Annapurve
2023-08-11 17:44         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-15 18:43       ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-15 20:03         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-21 17:30           ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-21 19:33             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-28 22:56               ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-29  2:53                 ` Elliot Berman
2023-09-14 19:12                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14 18:15                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14 23:19                   ` Ackerley Tng
2023-09-15  0:33                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-30 15:12   ` Binbin Wu
2023-08-30 16:44     ` Ackerley Tng
2023-09-01  3:45       ` Binbin Wu
2023-09-01 16:46         ` Ackerley Tng
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 13/29] KVM: Add transparent hugepage support for dedicated guest memory Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-21 17:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-06 22:10       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 14/29] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle page fault for private memory Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 15/29] KVM: Drop superfluous __KVM_VCPU_MULTIPLE_ADDRESS_SPACE macro Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH v11 16/29] KVM: Allow arch code to track number of memslot address spaces per VM Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 17/29] KVM: x86: Add support for "protected VMs" that can utilize private memory Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 18/29] KVM: selftests: Drop unused kvm_userspace_memory_region_find() helper Sean Christopherson
2023-07-21 15:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 19/29] KVM: selftests: Convert lib's mem regions to KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 20/29] KVM: selftests: Add support for creating private memslots Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 21/29] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to convert guest memory b/w private and shared Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 22/29] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to do KVM_HC_MAP_GPA_RANGE hypercalls (x86) Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 23/29] KVM: selftests: Introduce VM "shape" to allow tests to specify the VM type Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 24/29] KVM: selftests: Add GUEST_SYNC[1-6] macros for synchronizing more data Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 25/29] KVM: selftests: Add x86-only selftest for private memory conversions Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 26/29] KVM: selftests: Add KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 helper Sean Christopherson
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 27/29] KVM: selftests: Expand set_memory_region_test to validate guest_memfd() Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 23:17   ` Ackerley Tng
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 28/29] KVM: selftests: Add basic selftest for guest_memfd() Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 23:20   ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-18 23:03     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-07 23:25   ` Ackerley Tng
2023-08-18 23:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-21 19:49       ` Ackerley Tng
2023-07-18 23:45 ` [RFC PATCH v11 29/29] KVM: selftests: Test KVM exit behavior for private memory/access Sean Christopherson
2023-07-24  6:38 ` [RFC PATCH v11 00/29] KVM: guest_memfd() and per-page attributes Nikunj A. Dadhania
2023-07-24 17:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-26 11:20     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania [this message]
2023-07-26 14:24       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-07-27  6:42         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2023-08-03 11:03       ` Vlastimil Babka

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