From: sam.falvo@gmail.com (Samuel Falvo II)
To: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [sw-dev] SBI extension proposal v2
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 09:51:01 -0800 [thread overview]
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 9:43 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl@lkcl.net> wrote:
> it's also not an appropriate argument. nobody sensible would port a
> POSIX pppd from userspace into boot-level firmware. the argument also
> ignores the dozens of other advantageous potential use-cases.
Regrettably, if it's one thing we've all learned from PC clone
manufacturers and BIOS vendors, it's that they're not sensible.
They're not reasonable. And they're anything but sane.
Servers designed for use in data centers are on the market right now
with adapters fully equipped with TCP/IP stacks in firmware *just* to
give a remote operator control over a computer's PS/2 or serial ports,
for instance.
You can bank that it'll happen with RISC-V as well.
--
Samuel A. Falvo II
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From: Samuel Falvo II <sam.falvo@gmail.com>
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, hch@infradead.org, Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com,
olof.johansson@gmail.com, alankao@andestech.com, "Chang,
Abner" <abner.chang@hpe.com>,
atish.patra@wdc.com, Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>,
agraf@suse.de, zong@andestech.com,
ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
sw-dev@groups.riscv.org, paul.walmsley@sifive.com,
mick@ics.forth.gr, Alistair.Francis@wdc.com,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>
Subject: Re: [sw-dev] SBI extension proposal v2
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 09:51:01 -0800 [thread overview]
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 9:43 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl@lkcl.net> wrote:
> it's also not an appropriate argument. nobody sensible would port a
> POSIX pppd from userspace into boot-level firmware. the argument also
> ignores the dozens of other advantageous potential use-cases.
Regrettably, if it's one thing we've all learned from PC clone
manufacturers and BIOS vendors, it's that they're not sensible.
They're not reasonable. And they're anything but sane.
Servers designed for use in data centers are on the market right now
with adapters fully equipped with TCP/IP stacks in firmware *just* to
give a remote operator control over a computer's PS/2 or serial ports,
for instance.
You can bank that it'll happen with RISC-V as well.
--
Samuel A. Falvo II
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-10 2:42 SBI extension proposal v2 Atish Patra
2018-11-10 2:42 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-10 5:12 ` [sw-dev] " Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 5:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 14:50 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 14:50 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 15:48 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 15:48 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 16:46 ` ron minnich
2018-11-10 16:46 ` ron minnich
2018-11-10 17:40 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:40 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:41 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:41 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:42 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:42 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:51 ` Samuel Falvo II [this message]
2018-11-10 17:51 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 18:03 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 18:03 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:43 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:43 ` Samuel Falvo II
2018-11-10 17:41 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-10 17:41 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-10 17:47 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:47 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:59 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 17:59 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 18:01 ` ron minnich
2018-11-10 18:01 ` ron minnich
2018-11-10 19:33 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 19:33 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 19:39 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 19:39 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-11 3:15 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-11 3:15 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-11 7:14 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-11 7:14 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-11 13:17 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-11 13:17 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-12 2:08 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-12 2:08 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-10 18:02 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-10 18:02 ` Olof Johansson
2018-11-10 19:34 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 19:34 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-13 1:22 ` Michael Clark
2018-11-13 1:22 ` Michael Clark
2018-11-10 17:54 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 17:54 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 17:59 ` ron minnich
2018-11-10 17:59 ` ron minnich
2018-11-11 3:58 ` Atish Patra
2018-11-11 3:58 ` Atish Patra
2018-12-02 6:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-28 12:31 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 16:33 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2019-01-28 16:38 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 16:47 ` Nick Kossifidis
2019-01-28 19:43 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 19:47 ` Atish Patra
2019-01-28 19:48 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 19:40 ` ron minnich
2019-01-28 19:55 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 20:18 ` ron minnich
2019-01-28 20:37 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-28 22:23 ` ron minnich
2019-01-29 8:53 ` Alexander Graf
2019-01-29 15:52 ` ron minnich
2019-01-28 23:46 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2019-01-28 23:22 ` Bruce Hoult
2019-01-29 0:03 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2019-01-29 4:28 ` ron minnich
[not found] ` <CANs6eMk4z-ZibLW_5o03onu8AQe23uMa2hSieceHFqKS7igLDQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-01-30 0:05 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2019-01-30 0:17 ` ron minnich
2019-01-30 0:49 ` Bruce Hoult
2019-01-30 3:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[not found] ` <09bede45-6ecf-4ded-8615-0be38aac33fc@groups.riscv.org>
2019-01-29 3:58 ` Samuel Falvo II
2019-01-29 4:33 ` ron minnich
2019-02-05 22:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-05 23:02 ` Luís Marques
2019-02-06 7:03 ` ron minnich
2019-02-06 7:54 ` Damien Le Moal
2019-02-07 3:56 ` Paul Walmsley
2019-02-07 7:17 ` Anup Patel
2019-02-07 7:19 ` Anup Patel
2019-01-29 22:41 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-11-10 17:43 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 17:43 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 17:51 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 17:51 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-11-10 5:36 ` David Abdurachmanov
2018-11-10 5:36 ` David Abdurachmanov
[not found] ` <CA++6G0BTdybjhqaXm9EhAz0HsgpwfozK6OEL7DuzbS48RbEChA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-10 15:09 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-10 15:09 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-12 4:33 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-11-12 4:33 ` Nick Kossifidis
2018-12-04 23:22 ` [sw-dev] " Atish Patra
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