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From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
To: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, "Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Tomasz Moń" <tomasz.mon@camlingroup.com>,
	k.drobinski@camlintechnologies.com,
	"NXP Linux Team" <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: imx: reduce RX interrupt frequency
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 14:40:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220105134059.rcvegrjghgm7ryeh@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmp64831.fsf@osv.gnss.ru>

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On 05.01.2022 16:37:22, Sergey Organov wrote:
> Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de> writes:
> 
> > On 05.01.2022 16:00:34, Sergey Organov wrote:
> >> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 11:32:03AM +0100, Tomasz Moń wrote:
> >> >> Triggering RX interrupt for every byte defeats the purpose of aging
> >> >> timer and leads to interrupt starvation at high baud rates.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Increase receiver trigger level to 8 to increase the minimum period
> >> >> between RX interrupts to 8 characters time. The tradeoff is increased
> >> >> latency. In the worst case scenario, where RX data has intercharacter
> >> >> delay slightly less than aging timer (8 characters time), it can take
> >> >> up to 63 characters time for the interrupt to be raised since the
> >> >> reception of the first character.
> >> >
> >> > Why can't you do this dynamically based on the baud rate so as to always
> >> > work properly for all speeds without increased delays for slower ones?
> >> 
> >> I don't like the idea of dynamic threshold as I don't think increased
> >> complexity is worth it.
> >> 
> >> In fact the threshold works "properly" on any baud rate, as maximum
> >> latency is proportional to the current baud rate, and if somebody does
> >> care about *absolute* latency, increasing baud rate is the primary
> >> solution.
> >
> > Nope - this only works if you have both sides under control.... Which is
> > not the case in our $CUSTROMER's use case.
> 
> Yep, if one can't use primary solution, they need to come up with
> something else.

Please don't break existing use cases while improving the kernel.

> Where is that historical "low-latency" bit, by the
> way?

...has been removed:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210105120239.28031-11-jslaby@suse.cz/

Is there an option to bring that back?

Marc

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-05 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-04 10:32 [PATCH] serial: imx: reduce RX interrupt frequency Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 10:43 ` Ahmad Fatoum
2022-01-04 11:05   ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 10:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 11:13   ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-04 11:38     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-04 22:49       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-05  7:59         ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-05 10:37           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-05 10:56             ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-05 10:57             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-01-06 15:39               ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:34         ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-06 15:05           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10  6:14             ` Tomasz Moń
2022-01-10  8:31               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-05 13:00   ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:04     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2022-01-05 13:37       ` Sergey Organov
2022-01-05 13:40         ` Marc Kleine-Budde [this message]
2022-01-05 14:37           ` Sergey Organov

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