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From: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/12] spi: add ti-ssp spi master driver
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:19:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1289917140.1752.7.camel@helium> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116072225.GF4074-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 00:22 -0700, Grant Likely wrote:

> 
> After discussions about device init dependencies at plumbers, and
> since this is the first SPI device driver I've reviewed since that
> dicussion, this driver gets to be the first to implement the proposed
> policy.  :-)
> 
> Change this to module_initcall().  Many spi and i2c drivers use
> module or subsys_initcall to try and influence driver probe order so
> that certain regulator chips get registered before the devices that
> try to use them.  This approach is insane.

Last I observed the issue ... the situation was that various core
drivers were required to be able to say that a key subsystem was
functional ... with said subsystem required to boot properly.

The dependency being, that is, driver on subsystem (but that subsystem
needed a core/bus driver running before it could work.

What's insane is that Linux *STILL* has no clean way to express that
type of system dependency ... where driver dependencies are pure side
effects.  (Albeit ones that never change on many platforms, but where
board-specific differences are routine, and have the same kind of
indirect dependencies.


- Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-16 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-15 19:12 [PATCH v5 00/12] tnetv107x ssp drivers Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found] ` <1289848334-8695-1-git-send-email-cyril-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 01/12] misc: add driver for sequencer serial port Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found]     ` <1289848334-8695-2-git-send-email-cyril-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16  7:10       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20101116071047.GE4074-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 16:15           ` Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found]             ` <4CE2AE3C.4040805-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 20:35               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTik76EY8Xh01YP2Tep6k1ETPO+3idmNuk3pVikJG-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 21:19                   ` Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-16 22:23                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                     ` <20101116222340.GF21926-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 23:57                       ` Grant Likely
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 02/12] davinci: add tnetv107x ssp platform device Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 03/12] davinci: add ssp config for tnetv107x evm board Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 04/12] spi: add ti-ssp spi master driver Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 21:59     ` Ryan Mallon
     [not found]     ` <1289848334-8695-5-git-send-email-cyril-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16  7:22       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20101116072225.GF4074-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16  7:47           ` Grant Likely
2010-11-16 11:34             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <20101116113409.GH3338-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 20:45                 ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                   ` <20101116204554.GB5016-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 22:48                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <AANLkTi=utWumLKo9QVWXpkC8WxpgaNJJs+dj=pa2eq-q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-17  0:17               ` Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-17 13:31                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                   ` <20101117133136.GA19488-HF5t3jzXg/6ND3a5+9QAFujbO/Zr0HzV@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-17 15:25                     ` David Brownell
     [not found]                       ` <781931.83221.qm-g47maUHHHF+ORdMXk8NaZPu2YVrzzGjVVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-17 17:54                         ` Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found]                 ` <4CE31F0E.7050103-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-17 16:11                   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                     ` <20101117161130.GC5757-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-17 17:23                       ` Mark Brown
2010-11-17 17:35                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-18  5:46                       ` Greg KH
2010-11-25 23:32                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-11-16 14:19           ` David Brownell [this message]
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 05/12] davinci: add spi devices on tnetv107x evm Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 06/12] regulator: add driver for tps6524x regulator Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 07/12] davinci: add tnetv107x evm regulators Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 08/12] gpio: add ti-ssp gpio driver Cyril Chemparathy
     [not found]     ` <1289848334-8695-9-git-send-email-cyril-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-15 22:38       ` Ryan Mallon
     [not found]         ` <4CE1B651.1060006-7Wk5F4Od5/oYd5yxfr4S2w@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16 19:38           ` Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 09/12] davinci: add tnetv107x evm ti-ssp gpio device Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 10/12] backlight: add support for tps6116x controller Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 11/12] davinci: add tnetv107x evm backlight device Cyril Chemparathy
2010-11-15 19:12   ` [PATCH v5 12/12] davinci: add tnetv107x evm i2c eeprom device Cyril Chemparathy

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