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From: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-mmc-p3sGCRWkH8CeZLLa646FqQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Hans-Peter Nilsson
	<hans-peter.nilsson-VrBV9hrLPhE@public.gmane.org>,
	Mikael Starvik <mikael.starvik-VrBV9hrLPhE@public.gmane.org>,
	Mike Lavender
	<mike-UTnDXsALFwNjMdQLN6DIHgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>,
	spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2.6.22-git5 4/4] mmc_spi host driver
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:06:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070802150615.36e073c6@poseidon.drzeus.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708011117.24664.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:17:24 -0700
David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Wednesday 01 August 2007, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> > 
> > I'm more concerned with where you check this, rather than how. If
> > you want to apply it broadly, the request handling functions in
> > core.c would seem more sane.
> 
> That's not how any other host controller driver works though...
> 

Other controllers don't care at all about status bits. Except for omap,
which caused it to break in fun and interesting ways.

> I'm concerned with not becoming a guinea pig for experimenting
> with deep MMC stack changes which are not directly related to
> the SPI support.
> 

You're the one who started poking the error handling bear ;)

But we can ignore it for now.

> > > After all, if you really wanted to provide raw protocol
> > > data to the mmc core, cmd->resp[] would be bytes, not
> > > 32-bit words in cpu-order.
> > > 
> > 
> > It should, as that's how it's used everywhere. And I'd gladly
> > accept a patch that fixes this.
> 
> Erm, I don't follow.  It *is* used as 32-bit words
> everywhere I've had occasion to check.
> 

The only place it is used as that is when checking status bits (in the
app cmd handling). In all other places it is treated as a data buffer.
Just look at the UNSTUFF_BITS macro in mmc.c and sd.c.

> > 
> > From my point of view, it's all data. :)
> 
> Which of your points of view, though?  Clearly at some
> point the MMC stack recognizes the different semantics
> associated with for example OCR vs the command response
> codes.  Data isn't necessarily opaque ... 
>  

Right. I'm talking about the layer the host driver handles. There things
should be:

<header> <payload> <tail>

> > 
> > I have committed that to -mm now. Could I bother you with an update
> > of your patch to remove all MMC_ERR_ stuff? :)
> 
> You mean, git-mmc.patch from 2.6.23-rc1-mm2 which I see has
> just come out?
> 

Unfortunately I have little insight into Andrew's schedule for
producing new -mm. I push stuff to my "for-andrew" branch and he
eventually pulls from that.

> It really would have been easier all around if you had made
> those changes *after* merging at least the core parts of the
> SPI support.  It looks like most of the SPI patches won't even
> apply any more, so I'm "gifted" with a needless quantity of
> make-work.  The kind of stuff I've been trying to avoid by
> submitting the SPI stuff *before* any of those newer patches
> which jumped ahead of it in the queue ... :(
> 

I don't see how it would have been easier. The only difference is that
I'd get a merge problem when I applied the new stuff. So the difference
is really whose lap it would have fallen in.

I can fix your patches if you'd like, but you'd probably have better
insight into selecting relevant error codes now that the entire errno
is available.

> 
> That will be a trivial incremental patch.  You are aware
> that almost all DMA mapping calls in the kernel don't check
> for errors, right?  Because the ability to return errors is
> quite new ... and last I checked, not even documented.
> 

Somehow, that doesn't make me feel any better.

> > > More significant are the two FIXMEs related to card reset.
> > > One will require someone with relevant hardware (Jan?),
> > > the other still needs investigation.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok.
> 
> I can't see those getting investigated before these patches
> merge.
> 

Sure, that's fine.

-- 
     -- Pierre Ossman

  Linux kernel, MMC maintainer        http://www.kernel.org
  PulseAudio, core developer          http://pulseaudio.org
  rdesktop, core developer          http://www.rdesktop.org

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-02 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-14 22:04 [patch 2.6.22-git5 0/4] MMC-over-SPI David Brownell
     [not found] ` <200707141504.51950.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-14 22:05   ` [patch 2.6.22-git5 1/4] MMC headers learn about SPI David Brownell
     [not found]     ` <200707141506.00262.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:31       ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]         ` <20070726183150.024930aa-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:55           ` David Brownell
     [not found]             ` <200707260955.22967.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 18:05               ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                 ` <20070726200525.6a5b7d72-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 20:08                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-14 22:06   ` [patch 2.6.22-git5 2/4] MMC block learns " David Brownell
     [not found]     ` <200707141506.42880.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 16:33       ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]         ` <20070726183339.6631243f-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 17:00           ` David Brownell
     [not found]             ` <200707261000.17339.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 18:06               ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                 ` <20070726200639.06242858-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 20:15                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-14 22:07   ` [patch 2.6.22-git5 3/4] MMC core " David Brownell
     [not found]     ` <200707141507.17484.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 17:18       ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]         ` <20070726191824.569542fd-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 21:58           ` David Brownell
     [not found]             ` <200707261458.55558.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 22:22               ` David Brownell
2007-08-01 15:02               ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                 ` <20070801170220.3c5ccff6-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 17:02                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]                     ` <200708011002.28801.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 12:54                       ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                         ` <20070802145445.1118d1e7-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 19:23                           ` David Brownell
2007-07-14 22:08   ` [patch 2.6.22-git5 4/4] mmc_spi host driver David Brownell
     [not found]     ` <200707141508.07555.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 18:02       ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]         ` <20070726200202.5e5dcf62-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-26 23:32           ` David Brownell
     [not found]             ` <200707261632.37011.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 15:12               ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                 ` <20070801171217.1478267b-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-01 18:17                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]                     ` <200708011117.24664.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 13:06                       ` Pierre Ossman [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20070802150615.36e073c6-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-02 20:34                           ` David Brownell
     [not found]                             ` <200708021334.50670.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-04 13:14                               ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                                 ` <20070804151452.0efaa5a9-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-04 17:32                                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                     ` <200708041032.10001.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-04 21:32                                       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-08-07 12:35                               ` Pierre Ossman
2007-08-01 18:40                   ` David Brownell
2007-07-16 16:48   ` [patch 2.6.22-git5 0/4] MMC-over-SPI Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]     ` <20070716164837.GA18707-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-16 18:54       ` David Brownell
     [not found]         ` <200707161154.54728.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-17 15:13           ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]             ` <20070717151350.GA3752-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-17 16:11               ` David Brownell
     [not found]                 ` <200707170911.16715.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-18  7:35                   ` Jan Nikitenko
     [not found]                     ` <469DC2BC.5070305-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-18 17:06                       ` David Brownell
2007-07-18 10:00                   ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]                     ` <20070718100047.GA9544-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-18 14:05                       ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-07-18 14:44                   ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]                     ` <20070718164409.56ca0019-mgABNEgzgxm+PRNnhPf8W5YgPPQkE1Si@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-18 17:27                       ` David Brownell
     [not found]                         ` <200707181027.17819.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-19 16:15                           ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]                             ` <20070719161553.GA15756-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-19 20:28                               ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                 ` <200707191328.18846.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 14:29                                   ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]                                     ` <20070723142923.GA28979-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-23 17:33                                       ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                         ` <200707231033.31717.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-24 10:23                                           ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-07  3:21                                           ` David Brownell

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