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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:26:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190123102603.GA29826@blackberry> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ada7c25-c671-32d2-4c91-dd7e84c29e48@kaod.org>

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 09:48:31AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> On 1/23/19 7:44 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-01-22 at 16:23 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> >> Why do we need to provide real-mode versions of these hypercall
> >> handlers?  I thought these hypercalls would only get called
> >> infrequently, and in any case certainly much less frequently than once
> >> per interrupt delivered.  If they are infrequent, then let's leave out
> >> the real-mode version and just handle them in book3s_hv.c.
> > 
> > Agreed with the exception maybe of H_INT_ESB
> 
> ok. 
> 
> Some of these hcalls are really simple and only getting local info from 
> the host (h_int_get_*). I thought handling the hcall ASAP was a preferred 
> practice, even if the hcall is not called frequently. Isn't it ?

If we are going to handle a given hcall in the kernel at all, then we
have to have a virtual mode handler.  If we have a real-mode handler
as well then we in general incur a certain amount of code duplication
with consequent maintenance costs and possibility of bugs.  So we
generally only have real-mode handlers for the hcalls where it is
critical to minimize the latency.  From what Ben is saying that would
only be H_INT_ESB, and maybe not even that.

If H_INT_ESB is only used for LSIs, then is a guest going to be using
it at all?  My understanding was that with XIVE, only a small number
of interrupts that are to do with system management functions are
LSIs; all of the interrupts relating to PCI-e devices are MSIs.  So do
we actually have a real high-frequency use case for LSIs in a guest?

For now I would prefer that you remove all the real-mode hcall
handlers.  We can add them later if we get performance data showing
that they are needed.

Regarding whether or not to have a given hcall handler in the kernel
at all - if there is for example an hcall which is just called once
on guest startup, and its function is just to provide information to
the guest, and QEMU has that information, then why not have that hcall
implemented by QEMU?  Are any of the hcalls like that?

For example, if H_INT_GET_SOURCE_INFO was implemented in QEMU, could
we then remove the VC_BASE thing from the xive device?

Paul.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-23 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-07 18:43 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] powerpc/xive: export flags for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  3:33   ` David Gibson
2019-01-09 13:08   ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-09 13:38     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] powerpc/xive: add OPAL extensions for the XIVE native exploitation support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:26   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: check the IRQ controller type Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09  4:27   ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:56   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:24     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  0:50       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 10:16         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: export services for the XIVE native exploitation device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-11  4:09   ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:05   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:28     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 17:35     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  4:29       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:01         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  3:01           ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-01 17:03             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:25   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:19     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:26       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 06/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_ESB_FD control to the XIVE native device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:09   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:48     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:45   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:30     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:28       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 12:55         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:21             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:49               ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:03                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:58                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 21:53                       ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-09  9:41                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-11  2:38                           ` David Gibson
2019-02-11  6:42                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-12 22:07                               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_TIMA_FD control to " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a VC_BASE control to the " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:56     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:49       ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:36         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SET_SOURCE " Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  4:57   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 19:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:35       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:39         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a EISN attribute to kvmppc_xive_irq_state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:23   ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:44     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23  8:48       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 10:26         ` Paul Mackerras [this message]
2019-01-23 10:48           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: record guest queue page address Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:15   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:37     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SYNC control for the XIVE native migration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:17   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:39     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a control to make the XIVE EQ pages dirty Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:18   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:46     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:30       ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the source configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:21   ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 16:07     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:32       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:03         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:23           ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  1:24             ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:07               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:48                 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  9:13                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:15                     ` David Gibson
2019-02-14 16:50                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the EQ configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:24   ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 17:45     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:26     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23  6:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23 10:30         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 11:07           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  6:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-28 18:26               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-29  2:45                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:47                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  6:20                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:54                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31  2:48                         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29  4:12                 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 17:44                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:55                     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30  7:06                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:25           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-24  8:41             ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  4:43             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:46               ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10   ` [PATCH 19/19] KVM: introduce a KVM_DELETE_DEVICE ioctl Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22  5:42     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 18:39       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-04  5:26   ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state David Gibson
2019-02-04 18:57     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05  5:33       ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:58         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06  1:19           ` David Gibson
2019-01-22  4:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 19:07   ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:35     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-26  8:25       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04  5:36         ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:31           ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 22:13             ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-06  1:18               ` David Gibson
2019-02-06  7:35                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07  2:51                   ` David Gibson
2019-02-07  8:31                     ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08  5:07                       ` David Gibson
2019-02-08  7:38                         ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28  5:51     ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:51       ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30  5:40         ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:36           ` Cédric Le Goater

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