From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2019 16:07:47 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190208050747.GC2688@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d623da8-31e4-bdc9-c5e4-ea3689a795dd@kaod.org>
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On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 09:31:06AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> On 2/7/19 3:51 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 08:35:24AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> >> On 2/6/19 2:18 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 09:13:15AM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 12:31:28PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> >>>>>>>> As for nesting, I suggest for the foreseeable future we stick to XICS
> >>>>>>>> emulation in nested guests.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ok. so no kernel_irqchip at all. hmm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was confused with what Paul calls 'XICS emulation'. It's not the QEMU
> >>>>> XICS emulated device but the XICS-over-XIVE KVM device, the KVM XICS
> >>>>> device KVM uses when under a P9 processor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually there are two separate implementations of XICS emulation in
> >>>> KVM. The first (older) one is almost entirely a software emulation
> >>>> but does have some cases where it accesses an underlying XICS device
> >>>> in order to make some things faster (IPIs and pass-through of a device
> >>>> interrupt to a guest). The other, newer one is the XICS-on-XIVE
> >>>> emulation that Ben wrote, which uses the XIVE hardware pretty heavily.
> >>>> My patch was about making the the older code work when there is no
> >>>> XICS available to the host.
> >>>
> >>> Ah, right. To clarify my earlier statements in light of this:
> >>>
> >>> * We definitely want some sort of kernel-XICS available in a nested
> >>> guest. AIUI, this is now accomplished, so, Yay!
> >>>
> >>> * Implementing the L2 XICS in terms of L1's PAPR-XIVE would be a
> >>> bonus, but it's a much lower priority.
> >>
> >> Yes. In this case, the L1 KVM-HV should not advertise KVM_CAP_PPC_IRQ_XIVE
> >> to QEMU which will restrict CAS to the XICS only interrupt mode.
> >
> > Uh... no... we shouldn't change what's available to the guest based on
> > host configuration only. We should just stop advertising the CAP
> > saying that *KVM implemented* is available
>
> yes. that is what I meant.
>
> > so that qemu will fall back to userspace XIVE emulation.
>
> even if kernel_irqchip is required ?
Well, no, but if we don't specify.
> Today, QEMU just fails to start.
If we specify kernel_irqchip=on but the kernel can't support that I
think that's the right thing to do.
> With the dual mode, the interrupt mode
> is negotiated at CAS time and when merged, the KVM device will be created
> at reset. In case of failure, QEMU will abort.
>
> I am not saying it is not possible but we will need some internal
> infrastructure to handle dynamically the fall back to userspace
> emulation.
Uh.. we do? I think in all cases we need to make the XICS vs. XIVE
decision first (i.e. what we present to the guest), then we should
decide how to implement it (userspace, KVM accelerated, impossible and
give up).
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2019-01-07 18:43 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] powerpc/xive: export flags for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09 3:33 ` David Gibson
2019-01-09 13:08 ` Michael Ellerman
2019-01-09 13:38 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] powerpc/xive: add OPAL extensions for the XIVE native exploitation support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09 4:26 ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: check the IRQ controller type Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-09 4:27 ` David Gibson
2019-01-22 4:56 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:24 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 0:50 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 10:16 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: export services for the XIVE native exploitation device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-11 4:09 ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:28 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 17:35 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30 4:29 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 7:01 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31 3:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-01 17:03 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 4:25 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:19 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:26 ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 06/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_ESB_FD control to the XIVE native device Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:09 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:48 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 4:45 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 11:30 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:28 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 12:55 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson
2019-02-06 7:21 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07 2:49 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07 9:03 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson
2019-02-08 7:58 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 21:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-09 9:41 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-11 2:38 ` David Gibson
2019-02-11 6:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-12 22:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_TIMA_FD control to " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a VC_BASE control to the " Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:14 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 16:56 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 4:49 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:36 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SET_SOURCE " Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 4:57 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 19:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:35 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:39 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a EISN attribute to kvmppc_xive_irq_state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 6:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23 8:48 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 10:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 10:48 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: record guest queue page address Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:15 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:37 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SYNC control for the XIVE native migration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:17 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:39 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a control to make the XIVE EQ pages dirty Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:18 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 15:46 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:30 ` David Gibson
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the source configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:21 ` David Gibson
2019-02-04 16:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:32 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 13:03 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson
2019-02-06 1:24 ` David Gibson
2019-02-06 7:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07 2:48 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07 9:13 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson
2019-02-14 16:50 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the EQ configuration Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:24 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 17:45 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 6:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-23 10:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 11:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 6:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-28 18:26 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-29 2:45 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:47 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30 6:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:54 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-31 2:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 4:12 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 17:44 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 7:06 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-24 8:41 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 4:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:46 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 19/19] KVM: introduce a KVM_DELETE_DEVICE ioctl Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-22 5:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 18:39 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-02-04 5:26 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state David Gibson
2019-02-04 18:57 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 5:33 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:58 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-06 1:19 ` David Gibson
2019-01-22 4:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Paul Mackerras
2019-01-23 19:07 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-23 21:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-01-26 8:25 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-04 5:36 ` David Gibson
2019-02-05 11:31 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-05 22:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-02-06 1:18 ` David Gibson
2019-02-06 7:35 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-07 2:51 ` David Gibson
2019-02-07 8:31 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-02-08 5:07 ` David Gibson [this message]
2019-02-08 7:38 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-28 5:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-29 13:51 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-01-30 5:40 ` Paul Mackerras
2019-01-30 15:36 ` Cédric Le Goater
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