From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Kumar Gala <kumar.gala@linaro.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@arm.com>,
Sean Hudson <darknighte@darknighte.com>,
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ARM-SoC Maintainers <arm@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Amlogic board/soc bindings to json-schema
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 08:44:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_Jsq+e2m5VaibpvuTYURZ+E=MCSUGH8cokdWYWEjn_jy9iwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfb921ca-63c5-a4c2-f3e2-c2eebdf688f6@baylibre.com>
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 2:39 AM Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> You forgot linux-amlogic in CC...
>
> On 03/12/2018 22:32, Rob Herring wrote:
> > Convert Amlogic SoC bindings to DT schema format using json-schema.
> >
> > Cc: Carlo Caione <carlo@caione.org>
> > Cc: Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>
> > Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> > Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
> > ---
[...]
> > + - items:
> > + - enum:
> > + - amlogic,s400
> > + - const: amlogic,a113d
> > + - const: amlogic,meson-axg
> > + - items:
> > + - enum:
> > + - amlogic,u200
> > + - const: amlogic,g12a
>
> but all this feels wrong for me.
>
> First of all, this yaml description is not human friendly and not intuitive at all,
> and secondly with this conversion we loose all the comments about the SoC family relationship
> with the compatible strings !
>
> I really understand the point to have automated verification, but really it's a pain to read
> (I can't imagine newcomers... the actual DT bindings are already hard to read...) and
> I feel it will be a real pain to write !
What do you suggest that would be easier? Is it the YAML itself or the
json-schema vocabulary? For the former, we could use {} and [] to make
things more json style. But I imagine it is the latter.
There is some learning curve for json-schema and is certainly a
concern I have, but there would be a learning curve for anything. Our
choices are use some existing schema language or invent one. All the
previous efforts (there's been about 5 since 2013) have been inventing
one, and they've not gone far. There will be far few resources
available to train people with if we do something custom.
> Can't we mix an "humam text" with a "yaml" part on a same document ? we are in 2018 (nearly 2019),
> and it should be easy to extract a yaml description from a text document without pain and
> keep all the human description, no ?
Yes. Please go look at the annotated example in patch 2.
> What will be the case for all the bindings with ASCII art to describe the architecture of the
> HW ? will you simply drop it to replace it with cold yaml description ?
No, you can have literal blocks and/or comments with however much
description you like. In fact, there's some notion to write the
descriptions in sphinx and extract them to generate documentation, but
that's a ways off. That's just the extent of what is possible.
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-04 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-03 21:31 [PATCH v2 00/34] Devicetree schema Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 01/34] kbuild: Add support for DT binding schema checks Rob Herring
2018-12-08 4:47 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-12-10 15:55 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 02/34] dt-bindings: Add a writing DT schemas how-to and annotated example Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/34] dt-bindings: Convert trivial-devices.txt to json-schema Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/34] dt-bindings: altera: Convert clkmgr binding " Rob Herring
2018-12-05 15:13 ` Dinh Nguyen
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/34] dt-bindings: i2c: Convert i2c-gpio " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/34] dt-bindings: timer: Convert ARM timer bindings " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert cpu binding " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert PMU " Rob Herring
2018-12-05 10:08 ` Will Deacon
2018-12-05 15:42 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-06 14:37 ` Will Deacon
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 09/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert primecell " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 10/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Actions Semi bindings to jsonschema Rob Herring
2019-01-14 10:26 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 11/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Alpine board/soc bindings to json-schema Rob Herring
2018-12-04 7:53 ` Antoine Tenart
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 12/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Altera " Rob Herring
2018-12-05 15:13 ` Dinh Nguyen
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 13/34] dt-bindings: arm: amlogic: Move 'amlogic, meson-gx-ao-secure' binding to its own file Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:31 ` Neil Armstrong
2018-12-05 1:01 ` Kevin Hilman
2018-12-05 4:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/34] dt-bindings: arm: amlogic: Move 'amlogic,meson-gx-ao-secure' " Rob Herring
2019-01-09 16:12 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 14/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Amlogic board/soc bindings to json-schema Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:39 ` Neil Armstrong
2018-12-04 14:44 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2018-12-06 21:27 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 15/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Atmel " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:12 ` Nicolas.Ferre
2018-12-04 22:48 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 16/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Calxeda " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 17/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert TI davinci " Rob Herring
2018-12-06 10:28 ` Sekhar Nori
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 18/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert FSL " Rob Herring
2018-12-06 2:31 ` Shawn Guo
2018-12-06 23:33 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-08 1:58 ` Shawn Guo
2019-01-10 6:42 ` Shawn Guo
2019-01-10 10:44 ` Vokáč Michal
2019-01-10 13:44 ` Shawn Guo
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 19/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert MediaTek " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 20/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert TI nspire " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 21/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Oxford Semi " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:43 ` Neil Armstrong
2018-12-04 14:04 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 22/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert QCom " Rob Herring
2018-12-05 18:31 ` Andy Gross
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 23/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Realtek " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 24/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Rockchip " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 14:16 ` Heiko Stuebner
2018-12-04 15:04 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-09 22:14 ` [PATCH v2.1 " Heiko Stuebner
2018-12-10 9:54 ` Heiko Stuebner
2018-12-10 15:13 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-10 22:45 ` [PATCH v2.2 " Heiko Stuebner
2018-12-11 15:21 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 25/34] dt-bindings: arm: renesas: Move 'renesas, prr' binding to its own doc Rob Herring
2018-12-04 14:44 ` [PATCH v2 25/34] dt-bindings: arm: renesas: Move 'renesas,prr' " Simon Horman
2018-12-04 14:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 26/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Renesas board/soc bindings to json-schema Rob Herring
2018-12-04 14:48 ` Simon Horman
2018-12-04 14:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-12-04 15:08 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-05 19:44 ` Simon Horman
2018-12-06 19:38 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-10 11:12 ` Simon Horman
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 27/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert CSR SiRF " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 28/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert SPEAr " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 4:50 ` Viresh Kumar
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 29/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert ST STi " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:10 ` Patrice CHOTARD
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 30/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Tegra " Rob Herring
2018-12-04 8:50 ` Thierry Reding
2018-12-06 22:38 ` Rob Herring
2018-12-07 11:46 ` Thierry Reding
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 31/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert VIA " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 32/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert Xilinx " Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 33/34] dt-bindings: arm: Add missing Xilinx boards Rob Herring
2018-12-03 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 34/34] dt-bindings: arm: Convert ZTE board/soc bindings to json-schema Rob Herring
2018-12-06 2:33 ` Shawn Guo
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