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From: Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, piggin@cyberone.com.au,
	wli@holomorphy.com, kernel@kolivas.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] O11int for interactivity
Date: 05 Aug 2003 19:00:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1060102809.3174.15.camel@tux.rsn.bth.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030804225532.494bfd31.akpm@osdl.org>

On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 07:55, Andrew Morton wrote:

> Another possibility is that xmms is getting stuck in a read.  The
> anticipatory scheduler is currently rather tuned for throughput.  Judging
> by the vmstat trace which was posted, we have a classic
> read-stream-vs-write-stream going on.  We trade off latency versus
> throughput; perhaps wrongly.  You can decrease latency (at the expense of
> throughput) by decreasing the settings in /sys/block/hda/queue/iosched.
> 
> To a point, it is a nice linear tradeoff, and someone should put the time
> in to tweak and characterise it.

I believe it was my trace wli posted.
No swapping was going on, swappiness set to 30

X was quite jerky and uninteractive during this and sometimes it froze
for up to 5 seconds (the sound usually stopped during the freezing).

Since there wasn't any swapping going on and quite a lot of cpu left we
either have quite some latency when reading back parts of X that
previously got discarded or massive stalls in kernelspace somewhere.

One thing I noticed was that when evolution started checking for new
mail in a lot of folders I get a lot of seeks and the throughput
naturally decreased but X got really responsive again. This points away
from X beeing discarded and read back in from disk since that would take
some time with all those seeks as well.

The machine this was tested on is a pIII 700 with 704MB ram and IDE
disks (everything was against the same disk)
 
-- 
/Martin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-05 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-30  0:38 [PATCH] O11int for interactivity Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  0:55 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  1:08   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 13:55     ` Szonyi Calin
2003-07-31 13:56       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-31 15:21       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-07-31 21:38       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 22:01         ` Robert Love
2003-07-30  8:29 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  8:43   ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30  9:38     ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30  9:45       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-30 12:56       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30 13:14         ` Wade
2003-07-31 21:43     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-31 21:55       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-01 10:44       ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 21:27         ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-02 22:55           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-02 23:19             ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:06               ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-08-04 19:53                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  0:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  2:41                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  3:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:23                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  3:31                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  3:38                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05  4:54                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-05  5:02                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-05  5:55                                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-05  7:11                                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-05 17:00                                     ` Martin Josefsson [this message]
2003-07-30  8:41 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-07-30  9:35   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 15:33 ` Apurva Mehta
2003-07-31 16:58 ` Moritz Muehlenhoff
2003-07-30 10:31 Voluspa
2003-07-30 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-30 11:20   ` Eugene Teo

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