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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PM] powering down special devices
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:53:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1061841190.717.14.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308251201310.1157-100000@cherise>

On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 21:05, Patrick Mochel wrote:

> How about a flag in the power struct, which would place the device on a 
> completely separate list from the beginning. The drivers should know 
> whether a device needs special handling a priori, so we don't even need to 
> touch it during the first iteration of the lists.
> 
> This would eliminate the need to check in the drivers, have no impact on 
> the majority of drivers, and allow us to easily determine whether or not 
> the device supports runtime power management. 

Not sure if we don't actually want both iterations :) It's difficult to
knwo for sure as I lack such a device actually... But I can imagine your
need to run with IRQs enabled to properly "flush" pending requests, then
have IRQs disabled to do the HW shutdown.

For example, if you are a block device, then you need IRQ enabled so you
can send a SUSPEND request down your request queue like IDE does (that's
the best way to get proper synchronisation) and wait on it to complete.
But if your HW is then broken enough that when you actually want to turn
it off (after the queue has been properly suspended) it will leave a
dangling interrupt, then you need to do that last part with IRQs disabled.

Of course, the above only comes out of my imagination, I don't have such
a device, I suspect Alan may know more about the kind of devices we may
expect with an IRQ problem on suspend..

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-25 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-22 21:08 [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 21:25 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 21:53   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:05     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-23  1:03       ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-08-23 16:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-08-25 19:05         ` [PM] powering down special devices Patrick Mochel
2003-08-25 19:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2003-08-25  9:52       ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:10   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:13     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 22:17       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 22:36   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-23 10:47   ` Russell King
2003-08-24 11:54     ` Russell King
2003-08-26 15:39       ` [PM] Config Options Patrick Mochel
2003-08-24 12:08     ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Russell King
2003-08-25 15:47     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-25 16:27       ` Russell King
2003-08-25 16:57         ` Matt Porter
2003-08-25 17:14           ` Russell King
2003-08-25 17:34             ` Matt Porter
2003-08-28 15:38         ` Platform Devices Patrick Mochel
2003-09-01 12:02         ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 17:41           ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-09 20:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-09 20:24               ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-09 21:43               ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-09 22:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-09 23:07                   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-09 23:07                     ` [PM] Passing suspend level down to drivers Pavel Machek
2003-09-09 23:23                       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-10  0:06                         ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-10  6:12                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-09-10 11:48                         ` Alan Cox
2003-09-09 23:15                     ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Alan Cox
2003-09-09 22:56               ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-25 17:16       ` Russell King
2003-08-22 22:04 ` Timothy Miller

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