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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: brking@us.ibm.com
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	paulus@samba.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] pci: Block config access during BIST (resend)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:36:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1105626729.4644.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41E45089.4010006@us.ibm.com>

On Maw, 2005-01-11 at 22:17, Brian King wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> We can certainly go either way. I decided to go the way I did simply 
> because that was what was suggested.

The error case breaks X11. The cached approach of Ben's would probably
hide that nicely although it might cause some random crashes during
powerdown. Its hard to fix in user space because X has no idea how to
tell what is going on portably in the 'it broke' case other than spin
trying to for a while. The kernel knows what is up and can make an
intelligent decision - if the device doesn't come back from bist or we
need to mark devices as "very gone away" then maybe a second flag so we
have two user checked flags

	In BIST - wait
	Dead - error

> cycles and may even deadlock the system. This usage would require the 
> ability to block userspace for an indefinite period of time and also 
> make use of the config space caching code that is in my patch.

What if the user space you block holds a resource that is preventing
power down completing ? I can see how the kernel side stuff needs to be
more robust (bad news btw.. over 99% of pci config calls in the kernel
don't check the return according to a quick grep count. Good news is
they are almost all reads so caching ought to work for the main config
space stuff at least)

Caching doesn't however work for the cases like IRQ handlers but that
seems not to be problematic as the only "other device" stuff people
should be sticking their noses in except for bridge fixup stuff is
things like the BAR registers.

Alan


  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-13 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-10 14:49 [PATCH 1/1] pci: Block config access during BIST (resend) brking
2005-01-10 16:10 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-10 16:25   ` Brian King
2005-01-10 16:29     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-10 22:57       ` Brian King
2005-01-11 14:37         ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 17:33           ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-11 22:17             ` Brian King
2005-01-13 15:36               ` Alan Cox [this message]
2005-01-13 15:35             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 18:03               ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-13 18:46                 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 20:23                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-13 19:44                     ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 21:50                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-15  0:33                         ` Alan Cox
2005-01-15  1:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-15  1:01                             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-15  6:20                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16  0:58                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-16  4:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16  4:48                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-16 20:53                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16 22:07                                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-16 22:14                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16 21:10                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-18 15:14                     ` Brian King
2005-01-18 23:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 23:36                         ` Brian King
2005-01-19 22:40                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-26 16:34                         ` Brian King
2005-01-26 22:10                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-27 15:53                             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-27 18:44                               ` Brian King
2005-01-27 23:15                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-28 14:35                               ` Brian King
2005-02-01  7:27                                 ` Greg KH
2005-02-01 15:12                                   ` Brian King
2005-02-01 15:44                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-01 17:35                                       ` Brian King
2005-02-01 17:47                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-01 19:01                                           ` Brian King
2005-02-01 23:00                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-02 15:33                                           ` Brian King
2005-02-08 20:08                                             ` Greg KH
2005-06-21 16:08                                               ` Brian King
2005-08-23 15:11                                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Brian King
2005-08-23 15:14                                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] ipr: " Brian King
2005-09-01 23:03                                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: " Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 23:56                                                     ` Brian King
2005-09-02 22:43                                                       ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-02 23:11                                                         ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-03  0:08                                                           ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-03 23:37                                                             ` Brian King
2005-09-03 19:39                                                               ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-05 18:31                                                                 ` Brian King
2005-09-06  4:48                                                                   ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-06 14:28                                                                     ` Brian King
2005-09-07  5:49                                                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-07 14:58                                                                   ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-07 22:39                                                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-08  1:21                                                                       ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-08  3:05                                                                         ` Brian King
2005-09-08  4:08                                                                           ` Grant Grundler
2005-02-01 18:58                                       ` [PATCH 1/1] " Greg KH
2005-02-01 23:07                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-01 22:58                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-10 19:23   ` Alan Cox
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2004-12-14 19:41 brking

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