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* [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default
@ 2020-09-21 14:39 Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  2020-09-22 17:14 ` Wei Wang
  2020-09-29  7:56 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira @ 2020-09-21 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: J . Avila, Wei Wang, Todd Kjos, Daniel Bristot de Oliveira,
	Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot, Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt,
	Ben Segall, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner

The RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature enables the sharing of rt_runtime
between CPUs, allowing a CPU to run a real-time task up to 100% of the
time while leaving more space for non-real-time tasks to run on the CPU
that lend rt_runtime.

The problem is that a CPU can easily borrow enough rt_runtime to allow
a spinning rt-task to run forever, starving per-cpu tasks like kworkers,
which are non-real-time by design.

This patch disables RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default, avoiding this problem.
The feature will still be present for users that want to enable it,
though.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
---
 kernel/sched/features.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
index 7481cd96f391..68d369cba9e4 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/features.h
+++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WARN_DOUBLE_CLOCK, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(RT_PUSH_IPI, true)
 #endif
 
-SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, true)
+SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(LB_MIN, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(ATTACH_AGE_LOAD, true)
 
-- 
2.26.2


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* Re: [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default
  2020-09-21 14:39 [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
@ 2020-09-22 17:14 ` Wei Wang
  2020-09-22 19:04   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  2020-09-29  7:56 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Wei Wang @ 2020-09-22 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  Cc: LKML, Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, J . Avila, Todd Kjos,
	Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot, Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt,
	Ben Segall, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:40 AM Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
<bristot@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> The RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature enables the sharing of rt_runtime
> between CPUs, allowing a CPU to run a real-time task up to 100% of the
> time while leaving more space for non-real-time tasks to run on the CPU
> that lend rt_runtime.
>
> The problem is that a CPU can easily borrow enough rt_runtime to allow
> a spinning rt-task to run forever, starving per-cpu tasks like kworkers,
> which are non-real-time by design.
>
> This patch disables RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default, avoiding this problem.
> The feature will still be present for users that want to enable it,
> though.
>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> ---
>  kernel/sched/features.h | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
> index 7481cd96f391..68d369cba9e4 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WARN_DOUBLE_CLOCK, false)
>  SCHED_FEAT(RT_PUSH_IPI, true)
>  #endif
>
> -SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, true)
> +SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, false)
>  SCHED_FEAT(LB_MIN, false)
>  SCHED_FEAT(ATTACH_AGE_LOAD, true)
>
> --
> 2.26.2
>

Tested on an Android device and can no longer see long running RT
tasks (yes, Android have those for reasons).

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* Re: [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default
  2020-09-22 17:14 ` Wei Wang
@ 2020-09-22 19:04   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  2020-09-22 20:30     ` Wei Wang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira @ 2020-09-22 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wei Wang
  Cc: LKML, Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, J . Avila, Todd Kjos,
	Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot, Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt,
	Ben Segall, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner

On 9/22/20 7:14 PM, Wei Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:40 AM Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
> <bristot@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> The RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature enables the sharing of rt_runtime
>> between CPUs, allowing a CPU to run a real-time task up to 100% of the
>> time while leaving more space for non-real-time tasks to run on the CPU
>> that lend rt_runtime.
>>
>> The problem is that a CPU can easily borrow enough rt_runtime to allow
>> a spinning rt-task to run forever, starving per-cpu tasks like kworkers,
>> which are non-real-time by design.
>>
>> This patch disables RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default, avoiding this problem.
>> The feature will still be present for users that want to enable it,
>> though.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
>> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
>> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
>> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> ---
>>  kernel/sched/features.h | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
>> index 7481cd96f391..68d369cba9e4 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WARN_DOUBLE_CLOCK, false)
>>  SCHED_FEAT(RT_PUSH_IPI, true)
>>  #endif
>>
>> -SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, true)
>> +SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, false)
>>  SCHED_FEAT(LB_MIN, false)
>>  SCHED_FEAT(ATTACH_AGE_LOAD, true)
>>
>> --
>> 2.26.2
>>
> 
> Tested on an Android device and can no longer see long running RT
> tasks (yes, Android have those for reasons).
> 

So:

Tested-by: Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>

?

Thanks!
-- Daniel


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* Re: [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default
  2020-09-22 19:04   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
@ 2020-09-22 20:30     ` Wei Wang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Wei Wang @ 2020-09-22 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  Cc: LKML, Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, J . Avila, Todd Kjos,
	Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot, Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt,
	Ben Segall, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 12:04 PM Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
<bristot@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/22/20 7:14 PM, Wei Wang wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:40 AM Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
> > <bristot@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature enables the sharing of rt_runtime
> >> between CPUs, allowing a CPU to run a real-time task up to 100% of the
> >> time while leaving more space for non-real-time tasks to run on the CPU
> >> that lend rt_runtime.
> >>
> >> The problem is that a CPU can easily borrow enough rt_runtime to allow
> >> a spinning rt-task to run forever, starving per-cpu tasks like kworkers,
> >> which are non-real-time by design.
> >>
> >> This patch disables RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default, avoiding this problem.
> >> The feature will still be present for users that want to enable it,
> >> though.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> >> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> >> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> >> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> >> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> >> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> >> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >> ---
> >>  kernel/sched/features.h | 2 +-
> >>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
> >> index 7481cd96f391..68d369cba9e4 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/sched/features.h
> >> +++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
> >> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WARN_DOUBLE_CLOCK, false)
> >>  SCHED_FEAT(RT_PUSH_IPI, true)
> >>  #endif
> >>
> >> -SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, true)
> >> +SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, false)
> >>  SCHED_FEAT(LB_MIN, false)
> >>  SCHED_FEAT(ATTACH_AGE_LOAD, true)
> >>
> >> --
> >> 2.26.2
> >>
> >
> > Tested on an Android device and can no longer see long running RT
> > tasks (yes, Android have those for reasons).
> >
>
> So:
>
> Tested-by: Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>
>
> ?

Yup, thanks for pushing this.

>
> Thanks!
> -- Daniel
>

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* [tip: sched/core] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default
  2020-09-21 14:39 [PATCH] sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  2020-09-22 17:14 ` Wei Wang
@ 2020-09-29  7:56 ` tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: tip-bot2 for Daniel Bristot de Oliveira @ 2020-09-29  7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-tip-commits
  Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira, Peter Zijlstra (Intel), Wei Wang, x86, LKML

The following commit has been merged into the sched/core branch of tip:

Commit-ID:     2586af1ac187f6b3a50930a4e33497074e81762d
Gitweb:        https://git.kernel.org/tip/2586af1ac187f6b3a50930a4e33497074e81762d
Author:        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
AuthorDate:    Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:39:49 +02:00
Committer:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
CommitterDate: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 14:23:24 +02:00

sched/rt: Disable RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default

The RT_RUNTIME_SHARE sched feature enables the sharing of rt_runtime
between CPUs, allowing a CPU to run a real-time task up to 100% of the
time while leaving more space for non-real-time tasks to run on the CPU
that lend rt_runtime.

The problem is that a CPU can easily borrow enough rt_runtime to allow
a spinning rt-task to run forever, starving per-cpu tasks like kworkers,
which are non-real-time by design.

This patch disables RT_RUNTIME_SHARE by default, avoiding this problem.
The feature will still be present for users that want to enable it,
though.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
Tested-by: Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>
Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/b776ab46817e3db5d8ef79175fa0d71073c051c7.1600697903.git.bristot@redhat.com
---
 kernel/sched/features.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/features.h b/kernel/sched/features.h
index 7481cd9..68d369c 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/features.h
+++ b/kernel/sched/features.h
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ SCHED_FEAT(WARN_DOUBLE_CLOCK, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(RT_PUSH_IPI, true)
 #endif
 
-SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, true)
+SCHED_FEAT(RT_RUNTIME_SHARE, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(LB_MIN, false)
 SCHED_FEAT(ATTACH_AGE_LOAD, true)
 

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