From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.10-pre11
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:14:19 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010918131419.A14526@turbolinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0109181354470.27125-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109181122550.9711-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109181122550.9711-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
On Sep 18, 2001 11:27 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I agree that the timing may leave something to be desired. But we had the
> discussion about fixing pagecache-bdev consistency wrt the regular buffer
> cache filesystem accesses a week or so ago, and the fact is that nobody
> really seems to have started working on it - because everybody felt that
> you have to get everything done at once.
The real question is why can't we just open 2.5 and only fix the VM to
start with? Leave the kernel at 2.4.10-pre10, and possibly use the -ac
VM code (which has diverged from mainline), and leave people (Alan, Ben,
Marcello, et. al.) who want to tinker with it in small increments and
do the drastic stuff in 2.5.
Make it clear that 2.5 is still ONLY for VM and other bug fixes at this
point, and not all of the long-awaited 2.5 rework YET. If it turns
out that the VM fixes are done quickly, then they can be back-ported
to 2.4. If it takes longer than expected you can open 2.5 up to general
development.
With the right "management" it will be not much different than the current
situation, except that people won't have fits about such huge changes
going into 2.4. I think this is your subconcious telling you that you
really wanted to start 2.5 a month ago.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
\ would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ -- Dogbert
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-09-18 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-18 0:08 Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 23:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 1:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 3:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 2:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 3:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 2:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 4:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 3:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 5:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 3:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 5:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 4:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 5:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
[not found] ` <20010917211834.A31693@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20010918035055.J698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18 2:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20010917221653.B31693@redhat.com>
2001-09-18 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 3:14 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18 3:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20010918052201.N698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18 4:01 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 4:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 5:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18 5:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 5:22 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 5:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-18 6:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 5:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 6:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 16:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 19:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 21:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 13:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-18 10:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-09-18 9:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 9:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 9:44 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 9:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:02 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:28 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:52 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 11:05 ` Helge Hafting
2001-09-18 12:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 18:19 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 19:14 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-09-18 19:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 20:33 ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 20:53 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 21:06 ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 21:27 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 19:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 20:17 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-18 20:33 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 13:42 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 14:27 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 2:59 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-09-19 16:11 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 18:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 19:21 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 20:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 21:17 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:30 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 13:56 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 14:38 ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 14:50 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 15:44 ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 16:43 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 20:54 ` [PATCH] fs/block_dev.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 22:15 ` Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Richard Gooch
2001-09-20 2:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 10:52 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 18:33 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 20:41 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 21:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 21:40 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:20 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:44 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 23:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 23:11 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21 1:50 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21 2:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21 3:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21 4:00 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21 4:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21 4:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21 4:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21 7:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 20:41 ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-19 13:38 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 16:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 3:18 Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18 2:31 ` Magnus Naeslund(f)
2001-09-18 2:49 ` David B. Stevens
2001-09-18 3:38 ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18 3:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18 4:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-18 6:14 Alexei Podtelezhnikov
2001-09-18 13:51 ` Rik van Riel
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