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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.10-pre11
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:00:09 -0300 (BRT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0109180145330.7152-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010918073248.G698@athlon.random>



On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:55:46AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 12:33:15AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:53:10PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > > > Don't you agree that your code can introduce new stability bugs ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > not anything that can corrupt randomly your hd.
> > > > 
> > > > Sure, the old code did not corrupt hd's randomly, did it?
> > > > 
> > > > Let me redo the question: Don't you think the old stinky and slow code was
> > > > reasonably stable ? :) 
> > > 
> > > As said in the other email, just check 2.4 l-k reports of this week,
> > > last week etc.., I've lots of private reports too. While for everybody
> > > 2.2.19 is working fine.
> > 
> > Have you seen any problem report which does not happen with anon intensive
> > workloads ? 
> 
> of course, all the mysql/postgres db reports I got were non anon
> intensive I assume, I assume they had enough ram, they all said 2.2 was
> fine.
> 
> > As far as I've noted, people usually report performance problems when
> > running anon intensive workloads. For those cases, I'm pretty sure the
> > swap_out() loop is the fuckup: the swap allocation code is really a _CRAP_
> > for the current VM.
> 
> I don't think that was the case, 2.2 has the same swap_out loop.

Ok, back to the current allocation failure problem.

In addition to the zone specific page hiding problem, I'm afraid threads
can hide pages from themselves up to a point there is nothing to block on
(even if we have just one zone).

There is nothing which avoids that from happening in theory.

Well, I'm going to sleep now. 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-18  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-18  0:08 Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-17 23:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  1:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  3:58         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  2:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  4:54             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:33               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:06                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:55                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:32                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  4:14                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  5:59                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:00                       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
     [not found] ` <20010917211834.A31693@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <20010918035055.J698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  2:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]     ` <20010917221653.B31693@redhat.com>
2001-09-18  2:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18  3:14         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  3:26         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20010918052201.N698@athlon.random>
2001-09-18  4:01         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  4:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:04             ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  5:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:22             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18  5:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-18  6:11   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  5:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18  6:40       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 16:06         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 19:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-18 21:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 13:57               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-18 10:58   ` Martin Dalecki
2001-09-18  9:31 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  9:44     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18  9:57       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:02         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:28             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 10:35               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 11:05             ` Helge Hafting
2001-09-18 12:40               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18 17:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 16:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 18:19     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 18:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-18 19:14         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-09-18 19:41           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 20:53             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 21:06             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-18 21:27               ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-18 19:29         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-09-18 20:17         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-18 20:33           ` Alan Cox
2001-09-19 13:42           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 14:27             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19  2:59         ` Michael Peddemors
2001-09-19 16:11         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 18:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 19:21             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 20:55               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 21:17                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:01                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:03                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 23:30                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 23:40                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 13:56                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 14:38                           ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 14:50                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 15:44                               ` Chris Mason
2001-09-20 16:43                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 20:54                                   ` [PATCH] fs/block_dev.c cleanup Alexander Viro
2001-09-19 22:15                 ` Linux 2.4.10-pre11 Richard Gooch
2001-09-20  2:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 10:52                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 18:33                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 18:59                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 20:41                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 21:18                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 21:40                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:13                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:20                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 22:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 22:44                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-20 23:03                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-20 23:11                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  1:50                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  2:42                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  3:47                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:00                                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-21  4:06                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:06                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  4:46                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-21  7:09                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-19 20:41             ` Richard Gooch
2001-09-19 13:38       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-19 16:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-18  3:18 Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  2:31 ` Magnus Naeslund(f)
2001-09-18  2:49   ` David B. Stevens
2001-09-18  3:38   ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-09-18  3:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-18  4:41   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-09-18  6:14 Alexei Podtelezhnikov
2001-09-18 13:51 ` Rik van Riel

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