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From: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>
To: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux v2.5.42
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 04:11:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021012111140.GA22536@pegasys.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021012095026.GC28537@merlin.emma.line.org>

On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 11:50:26AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > PS: NOTE - I'm not going to merge either EVMS or LVM2 right now as things
> > stand.  I'm not using any kind of volume management personally, so I just
> > don't have the background or inclination to walk through the patches and
> > make that kind of decision. My non-scientific opinion is that it looks 
> > like the EVMS code is going to be merged, but ..
>
> A user's input, of not nearly as much weight as of the input you
> suggested, and totally unencumbered by technical details:
> 
> EVMS has been much more present to interested parties than LVM2. If --
> as a user -- I was to choose either one RIGHT NOW (i. e. with a gun
> against a head, a boss telling me 'I want a decision in 30 minutes', you
> name it), I'd go for EVMS.
> 
> But because EVMS just looks much less like a construction site than
> dm2/LVM2 does.
> 
> Just my two Euro cents.

I'll add my $0.02US which (according to exchange rates) is
worth more though almost worthless.

Hate to say it but in this comparison LVM2 looses.  Primary
reason: Backward compatibility.  People are going to need to
be able to switch between kernels.

So far everything indicates that LVM2 is not compatible with
LVM.  That LVM2 and LVM(1) can coexist-exist is irrelevant if
2.5 hasn't got a working LVM(1).  And that would leave us
with having to do backup+restore around the upgrade.

Any on-disk changes also need to have an in-place translator.
Just think about what it would take to do an upgrade, or
downgrade, without in-place translation.

Also 2.4 -> 2.6 should not be a feature reduction so
snapshot volumes and any other LVM features missing from
LVM2 are issues.

-- 
________________________________________________________________
	J.W. Schultz            Pegasystems Technologies
	email address:		jw@pegasys.ws

		Remember Cernan and Schmitt

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-12 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-12  4:59 Linux v2.5.42 Linus Torvalds
2002-10-12  5:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-12  7:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-12  7:52 ` Andres Salomon
2002-10-12  9:23   ` David S. Miller
2002-10-12  9:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-12  9:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-12  9:41   ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-10-12 10:21     ` Adrian Bunk
2002-10-12  9:50 ` Matthias Andree
2002-10-12 11:11   ` jw schultz [this message]
2002-10-12 11:29     ` Andres Salomon
2002-10-12 11:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-12 11:40       ` jw schultz
2002-10-12 17:47     ` Jon Portnoy
2002-10-12 18:10     ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-13 11:58     ` venom
2002-10-13 12:52       ` Michael Clark
2002-10-12 12:37 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-10-12 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-12 19:39   ` Andres Salomon
2002-10-12 13:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 17:10   ` Dipankar Sarma
2002-10-14 10:01 ` Joe Thornber
2002-10-14 19:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 19:32     ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-14 22:28     ` Joe Thornber
2002-10-12 17:14 Mark Peloquin
2002-10-12 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-12 19:37   ` jbradford
2002-10-13 23:55     ` Rob Landley
2002-10-13 12:41 ` [Evms-devel] " Michael Clark
2002-10-13 13:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 15:16     ` Michael Clark
2002-10-13 15:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 16:11         ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-13 16:26           ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-13 17:06             ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-13 19:58               ` Mark Hahn
2002-10-13 19:57                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-13 20:26                   ` Sean Neakums
2002-10-24 11:45                   ` Alexander Kellett
2002-10-13 19:59                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-13 20:24                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-14 15:11                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-14 22:27                     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-13 17:46           ` Robert Love
2002-10-13 18:34             ` Brian Jackson
2002-10-14 14:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-13 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-12 20:20 Dieter Nützel
2002-10-12 22:19 ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-14 17:37 Ben Rafanello
2002-10-15  2:47 Paul McKenney
2002-10-15 17:43 Mark Peloquin

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