From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:04:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100706130437.GJ11732@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F48148-9909-47D0-A850-04B22403C006@mit.edu>
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 06:38:28AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 08:41:06AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't disagree with this approach - I object to the fact that you
> >> repurpose an existing lock and change it's locking rules to "rule
> >> the inode". We don't have any one lock that "rules the inode",
> >> anyway, so adding a new "i_list_lock" for the new VFS level locking
> >> strategies makes it a lot more self-contained. Fundamentally I'm
> >> less concerned about the additional memory usage than I am about
> >> having landmines planted around i_lock...
> >
> > If some filesystem introduces a lock ordering problem from not
> > reading the newly added documentation, lockdep should catch it pretty
> > quick.
>
> I assume you mean inline documentation in the source, because I
> quickly scanned the source and couldn't find any significant changes
> to any files in Documentation.
>
> It would be nice if the new state of affairs is documented in a single file,
> so that people who want to understand this new locking system don't
> have to go crawling through the code, or searching mailing list archives
> to figure out what's going on.
These type of internal details of lock ordering I think work best in
source files (see rmap.c and filemap.c) so it's a little closer to the
source code. That's in inode.c and dcache.c.
Locking for filesystem callback APIs I agree is just as good to be in
Documentation/filesystems/Locking (which I need to update a bit), but
it's never been used for this stuff before. I'm always open to
suggestions of how to document it better though.
> A lot of the text in this mail thread, including your discussion of the new
> locking hierarchy, and why things are the way they are, would be good
> fodder for a new documentation file. And if you don't want to rename
> i_lock, because no better name can be found, we should at least
> document that starting as of 2.6.35/36 the meaning of i_lock changed.
Well there is not much definition of what i_lock is. It is really not
an "innermost" lock anyway (whatever that exactly means). CEPH even
takes dcache_lock inside i_lock. NFS uses it pretty extensively too.
So it really is *the* non sleeping lock to protect inode fields that
I can see.
As far as filesystems go, inode changes matter very little really,
but the best I can do is just to comment and document the locking
and try to audit each filesystem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-06 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-24 3:02 [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 01/52] kernel: add bl_list npiggin
2010-06-24 6:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-24 14:42 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-28 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 6:30 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 02/52] fs: fix superblock iteration race npiggin
2010-06-29 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-29 14:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 20:04 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-29 20:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 20:38 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 7:13 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 12:51 ` Al Viro
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 03/52] fs: fs_struct rwlock to spinlock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 04/52] fs: cleanup files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 05/52] lglock: introduce special lglock and brlock spin locks npiggin
2010-06-24 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 9:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 06/52] fs: scale files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 7:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 07/52] fs: brlock vfsmount_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 08/52] fs: scale mntget/mntput npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 09/52] fs: dcache scale hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 10/52] fs: dcache scale lru npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 11/52] fs: dcache scale nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 12/52] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 13/52] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 14/52] fs: dcache scale subdirs npiggin
2010-06-24 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 15/52] fs: dcache scale inode alias list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 16/52] fs: dcache RCU for multi-step operaitons npiggin
2010-06-24 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 17:22 ` john stultz
2010-06-24 17:26 ` john stultz
2010-06-25 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 17/52] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 18/52] fs: dcache reduce dput locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 19/52] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 20/52] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 21/52] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 22/52] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 23/52] fs: dcache percpu nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 24/52] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking npiggin
2010-06-24 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 16:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-28 21:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-07 14:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 25/52] fs: dcache DCACHE_REFERENCED improve npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 26/52] fs: icache lock s_inodes list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 27/52] fs: icache lock inode hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 28/52] fs: icache lock i_state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count npiggin
2010-06-30 7:27 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:36 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:54 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 9:36 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 16:21 ` Frank Mayhar
2010-07-03 2:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03 3:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 4:31 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-05 22:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-06 4:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-06 10:38 ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-06 13:04 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-07-07 17:00 ` Frank Mayhar
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 30/52] fs: icache lock lru/writeback lists npiggin
2010-06-24 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 31/52] fs: icache atomic inodes_stat npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 32/52] fs: icache protect inode state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 33/52] fs: icache atomic last_ino, iunique lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 34/52] fs: icache remove inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 35/52] fs: icache factor hash lock into functions npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 36/52] fs: icache per-bucket inode hash locks npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 37/52] fs: icache lazy lru npiggin
2010-06-24 9:52 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:59 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 8:38 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:46 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 38/52] fs: icache RCU free inodes npiggin
2010-06-30 8:57 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 39/52] fs: icache rcu walk for i_sb_list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 40/52] fs: dcache improve scalability of pseudo filesystems npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 41/52] fs: icache reduce atomics npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 42/52] fs: icache per-cpu last_ino allocator npiggin
2010-06-24 9:48 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 43/52] fs: icache per-cpu nr_inodes counter npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 44/52] fs: icache per-CPU sb inode lists and locks npiggin
2010-06-30 9:26 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 45/52] fs: icache RCU hash lookups npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 46/52] fs: icache reduce locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 47/52] fs: keep inode with backing-dev npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 48/52] fs: icache split IO and LRU lists npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 49/52] fs: icache scale writeback list locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 50/52] mm: implement per-zone shrinker npiggin
2010-06-24 10:06 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:32 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-30 6:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 51/52] fs: per-zone dentry and inode LRU npiggin
2010-06-30 10:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:13 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 52/52] fs: icache less I_FREEING time npiggin
2010-06-30 10:13 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 7:12 ` [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-25 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 11:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 17:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-06 17:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-01 17:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-02 4:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-30 17:08 ` Frank Mayhar
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