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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock()
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:07:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151006180734.GA28562@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006174311.GA10272@cloud>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:43:11AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:36:46AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:18:39AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:13:42AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Currently, __srcu_read_lock() cannot be invoked from restricted
> > > > environments because it contains calls to preempt_disable() and
> > > > preempt_enable(), both of which can invoke lockdep, which is a bad
> > > > idea in some restricted execution modes.  This commit therefore moves
> > > > the preempt_disable() and preempt_enable() from __srcu_read_lock()
> > > > to srcu_read_lock().  It also inserts the preempt_disable() and
> > > > preempt_enable() around the call to __srcu_read_lock() in do_exit().
> > > 
> > > What restricted environments do you intend to invoke
> > > __srcu_read_lock from?
> > > 
> > > This change seems fine, but I don't see any change in this patch series
> > > that needs this, hence my curiosity.
> > 
> > Someone asked me for it, and now I cannot find it.  :-(
> > 
> > Something to the effect of when running unmapped during exception entry
> > or something like that.  I guess one way to find out would be to remove
> > the commit and see who complained, but on the other hand, it arguably
> > makes more sense to have only the bare mechanism is __srcu_read_lock()
> > and put the environmental protection into srcu_read_lock().
> 
> I agree; I just find the idea that someone would need to call
> __srcu_read_lock rather than srcu_read_lock odd and worthy of further
> understanding. :)

And they did supply an explanation that seemed satisfactory at the time,
but I cannot find that either.  I clearly need to track that sort of stuff
better!

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-06 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:13 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/13] sched: Export sched_setscheduler_nocheck Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/13] rcu: Use rcu_callback_t in call_rcu*() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/13] rcu: Use call_rcu_func_t to replace explicit type equivalents Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:20     ` [Kernel networking modules.] OSI levels 2 & 3, Assistance - If anyone knows anyone in the US. North West region John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC
2015-10-06 16:44     ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:16         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:46             ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/13] rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/13] rcu: Add online/offline info to stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:15     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:18     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:43         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 18:07           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-10-06 20:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/13] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/13] rcu: Correct comment for values of ->gp_state field Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:21     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:36         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  8:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-26 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 18:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27  3:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-27  5:19           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-28  8:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-28 20:35               ` Patrick Marlier
2015-10-29  0:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-29  2:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-28 20:58             ` [tip:core/rcu] fs/writeback, rcu: Don't use list_entry_rcu() for pointer offsetting in bdi_split_work_to_wbs() tip-bot for Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:32           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/13] rcu: Remove deprecated rcu_lockdep_assert() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/13] rculist: Use WRITE_ONCE() when deleting from reader-visible list Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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