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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Lai Jiangshan" <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	"Dipankar Sarma" <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"pranith kumar" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
	"Patrick Marlier" <patrick.marlier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference()
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:37:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxHeM2vceDGC7YnDMfN4qu0DYVN=4iRGuC-naj1VnDw_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151026145552.GG5105@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>         struct bdi_writeback *last_wb = NULL;
>>         struct bdi_writeback *wb = list_entry_rcu(&bdi->wb_list,
>
> I believe that the above should instead be:
>
>         struct bdi_writeback *wb = list_entry_rcu(bdi->wb_list.next,

I don't think you can do that.

You haven't even taken the RCU read lock yet at this point.

What the code seems to try to do is to get the "head pointer" of the
list before taking the read lock (since _that_ is stable), and then
follow the list under the lock.

You're making it actually follow the first RCU pointer too early.

That said, I'm not sure why it doesn't just do the normal

    rcu_read_lock();
    list_for_each_entry_rcu(wb, &bdi->wb_list, bdi_node) {
        ....
    }
    rcu_read_unlock();

like the other places do. It looks like it wants that
"list_for_each_entry_continue_rcu()" because it does that odd "pin
entry and drop rcu lock and retake it and continue where you left
off", but I'm not sure why the continue version would be so
different.. It's going to do that "follow next entry" regardless, and
the "goto restart" doesn't look like it actually adds anything. If
following the next pointer is ok even after having released the RCU
read lock, then I'm not seeing why the end of the loop couldn't just
do

                rcu_read_unlock();
                wb_wait_for_completion(bdi, &fallback_work_done);
                rcu_read_lock();

and just continue the loop (and the pinning of "wb" and releasing the
"last_wb" thing in the *next* iteration should make it all work the
same).

Adding Tejun to the cc, because this is his code and there's probably
something subtle I'm missing. Tejun, can you take a look? It's
bdi_split_work_to_wbs() in fs/fs-writeback.c.

                Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-27  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:13 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/13] sched: Export sched_setscheduler_nocheck Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/13] rcu: Use rcu_callback_t in call_rcu*() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/13] rcu: Use call_rcu_func_t to replace explicit type equivalents Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:20     ` [Kernel networking modules.] OSI levels 2 & 3, Assistance - If anyone knows anyone in the US. North West region John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC
2015-10-06 16:44     ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:16         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:46             ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/13] rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/13] rcu: Add online/offline info to stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:15     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:18     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:43         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 18:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/13] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/13] rcu: Correct comment for values of ->gp_state field Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:21     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:36         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  8:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-26 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 18:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27  3:37         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2015-10-27  5:19           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-28  8:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-28 20:35               ` Patrick Marlier
2015-10-29  0:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-29  2:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-28 20:58             ` [tip:core/rcu] fs/writeback, rcu: Don't use list_entry_rcu() for pointer offsetting in bdi_split_work_to_wbs() tip-bot for Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:32           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/13] rcu: Remove deprecated rcu_lockdep_assert() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/13] rculist: Use WRITE_ONCE() when deleting from reader-visible list Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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