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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] mm: allow swappiness that prefers anon over file
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:32:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160609133205.GA11719@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160609010107.GF28620@bbox>

On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 10:01:07AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> A system has big HDD storage and SSD swap.
> 
> HDD:    200 IOPS
> SSD: 100000 IOPS
> From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOPS
> 
> So, speed gap is 500x.
> x + 500x = 200
> If we use PCIe-SSD, the gap will be larger.
> That's why I said 200 is enough to represent speed gap.

Ah, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, that's unfortunately a limitation in the current ABI. Extending
the range to previously unavailable settings is doable; changing the
meaning of existing values is not. We'd have to add another interface.

> Such system configuration is already non-sense so it is okay to ignore such
> usecases?

I'm not sure we have to be proactive about it, but we can always add a
more fine-grained knob to override swappiness when somebody wants to
use such a setup in practice.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-09 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-06 19:48 [PATCH 00/10] mm: balance LRU lists based on relative thrashing Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: allow swappiness that prefers anon over file Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07  0:25   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-07 14:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08  0:06       ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 15:58         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-09  1:01           ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-09 13:32             ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: swap: unexport __pagevec_lru_add() Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 21:32   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-08  7:14   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: fold and remove lru_cache_add_anon() and lru_cache_add_file() Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 21:33   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07  9:12   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-08  7:24   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: fix LRU balancing effect of new transparent huge pages Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 21:36   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07  9:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-08  7:28   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: remove LRU balancing effect of temporary page isolation Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 21:56   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-06 22:15     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07  1:11       ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07 13:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07  9:26       ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-07 14:06         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07  9:49   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-08  7:39   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 16:02     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: remove unnecessary use-once cache bias from LRU balancing Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07  2:20   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07 14:11     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08  8:03   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 12:31   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: base LRU balancing on an explicit cost model Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 19:13   ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-07  2:34   ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-07 14:12     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08  8:14   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 16:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08 12:51   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-08 16:16     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-09 12:18       ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-09 13:33         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: deactivations shouldn't bias the LRU balance Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08  8:15   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 12:57   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: only count actual rotations as LRU reclaim cost Johannes Weiner
2016-06-08  8:19   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-08 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-06 19:48 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: balance LRU lists based on relative thrashing Johannes Weiner
2016-06-06 19:22   ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-06 23:50   ` Tim Chen
2016-06-07 16:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-07 19:56       ` Tim Chen
2016-06-08 13:58   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-10  2:19   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-13 15:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-15  2:23       ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-16 15:12         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-17  7:49           ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-17 17:01             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-20  7:42               ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-22 21:56                 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-24  6:22                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-06-07  9:51 ` [PATCH 00/10] " Michal Hocko

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