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To: Gabriele Paoloni <gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on Hip06
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:45:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161111144539.GL10219@e106497-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EE11001F9E5DDD47B7634E2F8A612F2E1F8F900A@lhreml507-mbx>

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:39:35PM +0000, Gabriele Paoloni wrote:
> Hi Arnd
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arnd Bergmann [mailto:arnd@arndb.de]
> > Sent: 10 November 2016 16:07
> > To: Gabriele Paoloni
> > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Yuanzhichang;
> > mark.rutland@arm.com; devicetree@vger.kernel.org;
> > lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com; minyard@acm.org; linux-pci@vger.kernel.org;
> > benh@kernel.crashing.org; John Garry; will.deacon@arm.com; linux-
> > kernel@vger.kernel.org; xuwei (O); Linuxarm; zourongrong@gmail.com;
> > robh+dt@kernel.org; kantyzc@163.com; linux-serial@vger.kernel.org;
> > catalin.marinas@arm.com; olof@lixom.net; liviu.dudau@arm.com;
> > bhelgaas@googl e.com; zhichang.yuan02@gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on
> > Hip06
> > 
> > On Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:36:49 PM CET Gabriele Paoloni wrote:
> > >
> > > Where should we get the range from? For LPC we know that it is going
> > > Work on anything that is not used by PCI I/O space, and this is
> > > why we use [0, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO]
> > 
> > It should be allocated the same way we allocate PCI config space
> > segments. This is currently done with the io_range list in
> > drivers/pci/pci.c, which isn't perfect but could be extended
> > if necessary. Based on what others commented here, I'd rather
> > make the differences between ISA/LPC and PCI I/O ranges smaller
> > than larger.

Gabriele,

> 
> I am not sure this would make sense...
> 
> IMHO all the mechanism around io_range_list is needed to provide the
> "mapping" between I/O tokens and physical CPU addresses.
> 
> Currently the available tokens range from 0 to IO_SPACE_LIMIT.
> 
> As you know the I/O memory accessors operate on whatever
> __of_address_to_resource sets into the resource (start, end).
> 
> With this special device in place we cannot know if a resource is
> assigned with an I/O token or a physical address, unless we forbid
> the I/O tokens to be in a specific range.
> 
> So this is why we are changing the offsets of all the functions
> handling io_range_list (to make sure that a range is forbidden to
> the tokens and is available to the physical addresses).
> 
> We have chosen this forbidden range to be [0, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO)
> because this is the maximum physical I/O range that a non PCI device
> can operate on and because we believe this does not impose much
> restriction on the available I/O token range; that now is 
> [PCIBIOS_MIN_IO, IO_SPACE_LIMIT].
> So we believe that the chosen forbidden range can accommodate
> any special ISA bus device with no much constraint on the rest
> of I/O tokens...

Your idea is a good one, however you are abusing PCIBIOS_MIN_IO and you
actually need another variable for "reserving" an area in the I/O space
that can be used for physical addresses rather than I/O tokens.

The one good example for using PCIBIOS_MIN_IO is when your platform/architecture
does not support legacy ISA operations *at all*. In that case someone
sets the PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to a non-zero value to reserve that I/O range
so that it doesn't get used. With Zhichang's patch you now start forcing
those platforms to have a valid address below PCIBIOS_MIN_IO.

For the general case you also have to bear in mind that PCIBIOS_MIN_IO could
be zero. In that case, what is your "forbidden" range? [0, 0) ? So it makes
sense to add a new #define that should only be defined by those architectures/
platforms that want to reserve on top of PCIBIOS_MIN_IO another region
where I/O tokens can't be generated for.

Best regards,
Liviu

> 
> > 
> > > > Your current version has
> > > >
> > > >         if (arm64_extio_ops->pfout)                             \
> > > >                 arm64_extio_ops->pfout(arm64_extio_ops->devpara,\
> > > >                        addr, value, sizeof(type));             \
> > > >
> > > > Instead, just subtract the start of the range from the logical
> > > > port number to transform it back into a bus-local port number:
> > >
> > > These accessors do not operate on IO tokens:
> > >
> > > If (arm64_extio_ops->start > addr || arm64_extio_ops->end < addr)
> > > addr is not going to be an I/O token; in fact patch 2/3 imposes that
> > > the I/O tokens will start at PCIBIOS_MIN_IO. So from 0 to
> > PCIBIOS_MIN_IO
> > > we have free physical addresses that the accessors can operate on.
> > 
> > Ah, I missed that part. I'd rather not use PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to refer to
> > the logical I/O tokens, the purpose of that macro is really meant
> > for allocating PCI I/O port numbers within the address space of
> > one bus.
> 
> As I mentioned above, special devices operate on CPU addresses directly,
> not I/O tokens. For them there is no way to distinguish....
> 
> > 
> > Note that it's equally likely that whichever next platform needs
> > non-mapped I/O access like this actually needs them for PCI I/O space,
> > and that will use it on addresses registered to a PCI host bridge.
> 
> Ok so here you are talking about a platform that has got an I/O range
> under the PCI host controller, right?
> And this I/O range cannot be directly memory mapped but needs special
> redirections for the I/O tokens, right?
> 
> In this scenario registering the I/O ranges with the forbidden range
> implemented by the current patch would still allow to redirect I/O
> tokens as long as arm64_extio_ops->start >= PCIBIOS_MIN_IO
> 
> So effectively the special PCI host controller
> 1) knows the physical range that needs special redirection
> 2) register such range
> 3) uses pci_pio_to_address() to retrieve the IO tokens for the
>    special accessors
> 4) sets arm64_extio_ops->start/end to the IO tokens retrieved in 3)
> 
> So to be honest I think this patch can fit well both with
> special PCI controllers that need I/O tokens redirection and with
> special non-PCI controllers that need non-PCI I/O physical
> address redirection...
> 
> Thanks (and sorry for the long reply but I didn't know how
> to make the explanation shorter :) )
> 
> Gab
> 
> > 
> > If we separate the two steps:
> > 
> > a) assign a range of logical I/O port numbers to a bus
> > b) register a set of helpers for redirecting logical I/O
> >    port to a helper function
> > 
> > then I think the code will get cleaner and more flexible.
> > It should actually then be able to replace the powerpc
> > specific implementation.
> > 
> > 	Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-11 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-08  3:47 [PATCH V5 0/3] ARM64 LPC: legacy ISA I/O support zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 1/3] ARM64 LPC: Indirect ISA port IO introduced zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 12:03   ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 16:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:16     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-10  8:33       ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 11:22       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10 19:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-11 10:07           ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18  9:20             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 11:12               ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 12:58       ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:12   ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 16:33     ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:49       ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 17:05         ` John Garry
2016-11-08 22:35         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 11:29           ` John Garry
2016-11-09 21:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-22  8:15   ` Ming Lei
2016-12-23  1:43     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-12-23  7:24       ` Ming Lei
2017-01-06 11:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 2/3] ARM64 LPC: Add missing range exception for special ISA zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  5:17   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08  5:27   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 11:49   ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 17:10       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-09 13:54       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-09 14:51         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:38         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-14 11:11           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-18  9:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:20       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10  7:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:39   ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-09 16:16     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 16:50       ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-10  6:24         ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 16:06         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 10:37           ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on Hip06 zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  6:11   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 16:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 12:10     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10  6:40         ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10  9:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 12:36             ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 15:36             ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-10 16:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-11 10:09                 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-11 10:48                 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-11 13:39                 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 14:45                   ` liviu.dudau [this message]
2016-11-11 15:53                     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 18:16                       ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-14  8:26                         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-14 11:26                           ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-18 10:17                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 12:07                               ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 12:24                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 12:53                                   ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 13:42                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 16:18                                       ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 16:34                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 17:03                                           ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 14:16                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 15:22                                               ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 17:07                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 23:23                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24  9:12                                                     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-24 10:24                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25  8:46                                                     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-25 12:03                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25 16:27                                                         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 16:54                     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-14 11:06         ` One Thousand Gnomes

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