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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 09/10] kmod: add helpers for getting kmod count and limit
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 08:57:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216075726.GD13946@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161215165619.GB18152@pathway.suse.cz>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:56:19PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Thu 2016-12-08 11:49:20, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > This adds helpers for getting access to the kmod count and limit from
> > userspace. While at it, this also lets userspace fine tune the kmod
> > limit after boot, it uses the shiny new proc_douintvec_minmax().
> > 
> > These knobs should help userspace more gracefully and deterministically
> > handle module loading.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/kmod.h |  8 +++++
> >  kernel/kmod.c        | 83 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  kernel/sysctl.c      | 14 +++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 103 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> I am not sure if it is worth it. As you say in the 3rd patch,
> there was rather low limit for 16 years and nobody probably had
> problems with it.

Note, *probably* - ie, this could have gone unreported for a while, and
to be frank how can we know for sure a pesky module just did not load due
to this? In the case of get_fs_type() issue this can be fatal for a partition
mount, not a good example to wait to look forward to before we take this
serious.

I added the sysctl value mostly for read purposes, the count is probably
useless for any accounting to be done in userspace due to delays this
reading and making this value useful in userspace can have, I can nuke
that. The kmod-limit however seems very useful so that userspace knows
how to properly thread *safely* modprobe calls more deterministically.

Adding write support to let one bump the limit was just an easy convenience
possible given the read support was being added, but its use should
really only be useful for testing purposes post bootup given that the
real value in the limit will be important at boot time prior to the sysctl
parsing. The real know tweak which should be used in case of issues is
the module parameter added earlier.

So I could drop the kmod-count, and just make the kmod-limit read-only.
Thoughts?

> Anyway, it seems that such know should also get documented in
> Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt

Will do if we keep them, thanks.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-08 18:47 [RFC 00/10] kmod: stress test driver, few fixes and enhancements Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 18:47 ` [RFC 01/10] kmod: add test driver to stress test the module loader Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 20:24   ` Kees Cook
2016-12-13 21:10     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-16  7:41       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:48 ` [RFC 02/10] module: fix memory leak on early load_module() failures Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 20:30   ` Kees Cook
2016-12-08 21:10     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 21:17       ` Kees Cook
2016-12-09 17:06   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-16  8:51     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-15 18:46   ` Aaron Tomlin
2016-12-08 19:48 ` [RFC 03/10] kmod: add dynamic max concurrent thread count Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 20:28   ` Kees Cook
2016-12-08 21:00     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-14 15:38   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16  8:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-10 19:24       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:48 ` [RFC 04/10] kmod: provide wrappers for kmod_concurrent inc/dec Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2016-12-08 21:08     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-15 12:46       ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16  8:05         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-22  4:48           ` Jessica Yu
2017-01-06 20:54             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-10 18:57           ` [RFC 04/10] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-11 20:08             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-16 18:02               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-18  2:37                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-22  5:07   ` Jessica Yu
2017-01-10 20:28     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:48 ` [RFC 05/10] kmod: return -EBUSY if modprobe limit is reached Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:48 ` [RFC 06/10] kmod: provide sanity check on kmod_concurrent access Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-14 16:08   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 17:12     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-15 12:57   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-10 20:00     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:49 ` [RFC 07/10] kmod: use simplified rate limit printk Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-14 16:23   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-14 16:41     ` Joe Perches
2016-12-16  8:44     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:49 ` [RFC 08/10] sysctl: add support for unsigned int properly Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:49 ` [RFC 09/10] kmod: add helpers for getting kmod count and limit Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-15 16:56   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16  7:57     ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-01-11 18:27       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-08 19:49 ` [RFC 10/10] kmod: add a sanity check on module loading Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-09 20:03   ` Martin Wilck
2016-12-09 20:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-15 18:08       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-15  0:27   ` Rusty Russell
2016-12-16  8:31     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-17  3:54       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <CAB=NE6VvuA9a6hf6yoopGfUxVJQM5HyV5bNzUdsEtUV0UhbG-g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-12-20  0:53           ` Rusty Russell
2016-12-20 18:52             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-12-21  2:21               ` Rusty Russell
2016-12-21 13:08                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-03  0:04                   ` Rusty Russell
2017-01-06 20:36                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-06 21:53                       ` Jessica Yu
2017-01-09 20:27                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                       ` <87bmvgax51.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2017-01-09 19:56                         ` [RFC 10/10] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-01-06 21:03                     ` Jessica Yu
2017-01-04  2:47   ` Jessica Yu
2017-01-11 19:10 ` [RFC 00/10] kmod: stress test driver, few fixes and enhancements Luis R. Rodriguez

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