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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Marc Gonzalez <marc_gonzalez@sigmadesigns.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/3] PCI: Add tango PCIe host bridge support
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:15:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704151502.GH13824@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170703181128.GD4902@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:11:28PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:40:31AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > The problem is serializing vs. memory accesses, since they don't use
> > any wrappers.  However, they are ioremapped(), so it's at least
> > conceivable that another solution would be to use VM to trap those
> > accesses.  I'm not a VM person, so I don't know whether that's
> > feasible in Linux.
> 
> Bjorn,
> 
> You're forgetting that MMIO (iow, memory returned by ioremap()) must
> be accessed through the appropriate accessors, and must not be
> directly dereferenced in C.  (We do have buggy drivers that do that
> but they are buggy, and in many cases are getting attention to fix
> that.)

Oh, you're right, thank you!  I guess you're referring to readb()
and friends.  I haven't found an actual prohibition on directly
dereferencing addresses returned from ioremap(), but
Documentation/driver-api/device-io.rst is clear that they're
suitable for passing to readb(), etc.

I recently told someone else my mistaken idea that ioremap() must
return a valid virtual address.  I wish I remembered who it was, so I
could correct that.  Documentation/DMA-API-HOWTO.txt also suggests
that ioremap() returns a virtual address -- I think I wrote that, and
maybe that virtual address reference should be tweaked a bit.

Another wrinkle is that the pci_mmap_resource() interface is exposed
via sysfs and allows direct userspace mmap of PCI MMIO resources.  In
that case, there is no accessor available.  I wonder if we need some
way to disable this mmap when readb() is non-trivial.

Bjorn

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-04 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20  8:12 [PATCH v9 0/3] Tango PCIe controller support Marc Gonzalez
2017-06-20  8:14 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] PCI: Add DT binding for tango PCIe controller Marc Gonzalez
2017-06-20  8:17 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] PCI: Add tango PCIe host bridge support Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-02 23:18   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-03  9:35     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-03 13:27       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-04  6:58         ` Jisheng Zhang
2017-07-04  7:16           ` Jisheng Zhang
2017-07-04  8:02           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-04  8:19             ` Jisheng Zhang
2017-07-04  9:38               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-05 13:53                 ` Joao Pinto
2017-07-03  9:54     ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-03 13:13       ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-03 15:30         ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-04  7:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-04 13:08             ` Mason
2017-07-04 14:27               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-04 15:18                 ` Mason
2017-07-03 13:40       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-03 14:34         ` Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-04 15:58           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-04 23:42             ` Mason
2017-07-03 18:11         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-07-03 18:44           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-04 15:15           ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2017-07-04 18:17             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-07-04 23:59           ` Mason
2017-07-05  5:21             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-05 12:33             ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20  8:18 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] PCI: Add tango MSI controller support Marc Gonzalez
2017-07-04 20:24 ` [PATCH v9 0/3] Tango PCIe " Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-04 22:55   ` Mason
2017-07-05 18:03     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-05 20:39       ` Mason
2017-07-05 21:34         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-05 21:59           ` Mason
2017-07-06  3:39             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-07-06 12:26               ` Mason
2017-07-06 12:40                 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-07-06 19:46                 ` Bjorn Helgaas

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