From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] ptr_ring: linked list fallback
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:12:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180227190703-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0316016a-717b-9d3f-5aef-dccaf34d0fae@redhat.com>
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:29:26AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 2018年02月27日 04:34, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:15:42AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2018年02月26日 09:17, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > So pointer rings work fine, but they have a problem: make them too small
> > > > and not enough entries fit. Make them too large and you start flushing
> > > > your cache and running out of memory.
> > > >
> > > > This is a new idea of mine: a ring backed by a linked list. Once you run
> > > > out of ring entries, instead of a drop you fall back on a list with a
> > > > common lock.
> > > >
> > > > Should work well for the case where the ring is typically sized
> > > > correctly, but will help address the fact that some user try to set e.g.
> > > > tx queue length to 1000000.
> > > >
> > > > In other words, the idea is that if a user sets a really huge TX queue
> > > > length, we allocate a ptr_ring which is smaller, and use the backup
> > > > linked list when necessary to provide the requested TX queue length
> > > > legitimately.
> > > >
> > > > My hope this will move us closer to direction where e.g. fw codel can
> > > > use ptr rings without locking at all. The API is still very rough, and
> > > > I really need to take a hard look at lock nesting.
> > > >
> > > > Compiled only, sending for early feedback/flames.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin<mst@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > changes from v1:
> > > > - added clarifications by DaveM in the commit log
> > > > - build fixes
> > > >
> > > > include/linux/ptr_ring.h | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > > > 1 file changed, 61 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/ptr_ring.h b/include/linux/ptr_ring.h
> > > > index d72b2e7..8aa8882 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/ptr_ring.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/ptr_ring.h
> > > > @@ -31,11 +31,18 @@
> > > > #include <asm/errno.h>
> > > > #endif
> > > > +/* entries must start with the following structure */
> > > > +struct plist {
> > > > + struct plist *next;
> > > > + struct plist *last; /* only valid in the 1st entry */
> > > > +};
> > > So I wonder whether or not it's better to do this in e.g skb_array
> > > implementation. Then it can use its own prev/next field.
> > XDP uses ptr ring directly, doesn't it?
> >
>
> Well I believe the main user for this is qdisc, which use skb array. And we
> can not use what implemented in this patch directly for sk_buff without some
> changes on the data structure.
Why not? skb has next and prev pointers at 1st two fields:
struct sk_buff {
union {
struct {
/* These two members must be first. */
struct sk_buff *next;
struct sk_buff *prev;
...
}
so it's just a question of casting to struct plist.
Or we can add plist to a union:
struct sk_buff {
union {
struct {
/* These two members must be first. */
struct sk_buff *next;
struct sk_buff *prev;
union {
struct net_device *dev;
/* Some protocols might use this space to store information,
* while device pointer would be NULL.
* UDP receive path is one user.
*/
unsigned long dev_scratch;
};
};
struct rb_node rbnode; /* used in netem & tcp stack */
+ struct plist plist; /* For use with ptr_ring */
};
> For XDP, we need to embed plist in struct xdp_buff too,
Right - that's pretty straightforward, isn't it?
> so it looks to me
> that the better approach is to have separated function for ptr ring and skb
> array.
>
> Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-27 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-26 1:17 [RFC PATCH v2] ptr_ring: linked list fallback Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-26 3:15 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-26 20:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-27 2:29 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-27 17:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-02-28 3:28 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-28 3:39 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-28 4:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 4:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 6:28 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-28 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-02-28 14:20 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-28 15:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-01 6:41 ` Jason Wang
2018-02-27 17:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-02-27 19:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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