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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 10/13] x86/sgx: Add sgx_einit() for initializing enclaves
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:09:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180829210901.GA7176@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <105F7BF4D0229846AF094488D65A09893541195D@PGSMSX112.gar.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:58:09PM -0700, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopherson, Sean J
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:34 AM
> > To: Huang, Kai <kai.huang@intel.com>
> > Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>; platform-driver-
> > x86@vger.kernel.org; x86@kernel.org; nhorman@redhat.com; linux-
> > kernel@vger.kernel.org; tglx@linutronix.de; suresh.b.siddha@intel.com; Ayoun,
> > Serge <serge.ayoun@intel.com>; hpa@zytor.com; npmccallum@redhat.com;
> > mingo@redhat.com; linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org; Hansen, Dave
> > <dave.hansen@intel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 10/13] x86/sgx: Add sgx_einit() for initializing enclaves
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:33:54AM -0700, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > > [snip..]
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -38,6 +39,18 @@ static LIST_HEAD(sgx_active_page_list);
> > > > > > static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(sgx_active_page_list_lock);
> > > > > >  static struct task_struct *ksgxswapd_tsk;  static
> > > > > > DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(ksgxswapd_waitq);
> > > > > > +static struct notifier_block sgx_pm_notifier; static u64
> > > > > > +sgx_pm_cnt;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/* The cache for the last known values of IA32_SGXLEPUBKEYHASHx
> > > > > > +MSRs
> > > > > > for each
> > > > > > + * CPU. The entries are initialized when they are first used by
> > > > > > sgx_einit().
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +struct sgx_lepubkeyhash {
> > > > > > +	u64 msrs[4];
> > > > > > +	u64 pm_cnt;
> > > > >
> > > > > May I ask why do we need pm_cnt here? In fact why do we need
> > > > > suspend staff (namely, sgx_pm_cnt above, and related code in this
> > > > > patch) here in this patch? From the patch commit message I don't
> > > > > see why we need PM staff here. Please give comment why you need PM
> > > > > staff, or you may consider to split the PM staff to another patch.
> > > >
> > > > Refining the commit message probably makes more sense because
> > > > without PM code sgx_einit() would be broken. The MSRs have been reset
> > after waking up.
> > > >
> > > > Some kind of counter is required to keep track of the power cycle.
> > > > When going to sleep the sgx_pm_cnt is increased. sgx_einit()
> > > > compares the current value of the global count to the value in the
> > > > cache entry to see whether we are in a new power cycle.
> > >
> > > You mean reset to Intel default? I think we can also just reset the
> > > cached MSR values on each power cycle, which would be simpler, IMHO?
> > 
> > Refresh my brain, does hardware reset the MSRs on a transition to S3 or lower?
> > 
> > > I think we definitely need some code to handle S3-S5, but should be in
> > > separate patches, since I think the major impact of S3-S5 is entire
> > > EPC being destroyed. I think keeping pm_cnt is not sufficient enough
> > > to handle such case?
> > > >
> > > > This brings up one question though: how do we deal with VM host going to
> > sleep?
> > > > VM guest would not be aware of this.
> > >
> > > IMO VM just gets "sudden loss of EPC" after suspend & resume in host.
> > > SGX driver and SDK should be able to handle "sudden loss of EPC", ie,
> > > co-working together to re-establish the missing enclaves.
> > >
> > > Actually supporting "sudden loss of EPC" is a requirement to support
> > > live migration of VM w/ SGX. Internally long time ago we had a
> > > discussion and the decision was we should support SGX live migration given
> > two facts:
> > >
> > > 1) losing platform-dependent is not important. For example, losing
> > > sealing key is not a problem, as we could get secrets provisioned
> > > again from remote. 2) Both windows & linux driver commit to support "sudden
> > loss of EPC".
> > >
> > > I don't think we have to support in very first upstream driver, but I
> > > think we need to support someday.
> > 
> > Actually, we can easily support this in the driver, at least for SGX1 hardware.
> 
> That's my guess too. Just want to check whether we are still on the same page :)
> 
> > SGX2 isn't difficult to handle, but we've intentionally postponed those patches
> > until SGX1 support is in mainline[1].
> > Accesses to the EPC after it is lost will cause faults.  Userspace EPC accesses, e.g.
> > ERESUME, will get a SIGSEGV that the process should interpret as an "I should
> > restart my enclave" event.  The SDK already does this.  In the driver, we just need
> > to be aware of this potential behavior and not freak out.  Specifically, SGX_INVD
> > needs to not WARN on faults that may have been due to a the EPC being nuked.
> > I think we can even remove the sgx_encl_pm_notifier() code altogether.
> 
> Possibly we still need to do some cleanup, ie, all structures of enclaves, upon resume? 

Not for functional reasons.  The driver will automatically do the
cleanup via SGX_INVD when it next accesses the enclave's pages and
takes a fault, e.g. during reclaim.  Proactively reclaiming the EPC
pages would probably affect performance, though not necessarily in
a good way.  And I think it would be a beneficial to get the driver
out of the suspend/hibernate/resume paths, e.g. zapping all enclaves
could noticeably impact suspend/resume latency.
 
> Anyway I am just guessing.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kai
> 
> > 
> > [1] SGX1 hardware signals a #GP on an access to an invalid EPC page.
> >     SGX2 signals a #PF with the PF_SGX error code bit set.  This is
> >     problematic because the kernel looks at the PTEs for CR2 and sees
> >     nothing wrong, so it thinks it should just restart the
> >     instruction, leading to an infinite fault loop.  Resolving this
> >     is fairly straightforward, but a complete fix requires propagating
> >     PF_SGX down to the ENCLS fixup handler, which means plumbing the
> >     error code through the fixup handlers or smushing PF_SGX into
> >     trapnr.  Since there is a parallel effort to plumb the error code
> >     through the handlers, https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/8/6/924, we opted
> >     to do this in a separate series.
> > 
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > Would you be able to comment here?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think the best measure would be to add a new parameter to
> > > > sgx_einit() that enforces update of the MSRs. The driver can then
> > > > set this parameter in the case when sgx_einit() returns
> > > > SGX_INVALID_LICENSE. This is coherent because the driver requires
> > > > writable MSRs. It would not be coherent to do it directly in the core because
> > KVM does not require writable MSRs.
> > >
> > > IMHO this is not required, as I mentioned above.
> > >
> > > And
> > > [snip...]
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Kai

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-29 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-27 18:53 [PATCH v13 00/13] Intel SGX1 support Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 01/13] x86/sgx: Update MAINTAINERS Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 12:56   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-03 19:10     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 02/13] x86/cpufeature: Add SGX and SGX_LC CPU features Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-28  0:07   ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-28  7:17     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-29  7:36       ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-31 12:19         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-31 16:18   ` Dr. Greg
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 03/13] x86/cpufeatures: Add Intel-defined SGX leaf CPUID_12_EAX Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 19:39   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  7:23     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-28 10:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-08-28 10:38     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 04/13] x86/sgx: Architectural structures Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 19:41   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  8:08     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 13:16   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-03 19:17     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 16:04     ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-04 16:06       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-05 17:32       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 05/13] x86/msr: Add SGX definitions to msr-index.h Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 19:42   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  8:11     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 06/13] x86/sgx: Detect Intel SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 19:53   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  8:28     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 14:26   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-04  9:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 07/13] x86/sgx: Add data structures for tracking the EPC pages Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 21:07   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28 10:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-28 16:53       ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28 21:34         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-31 11:13           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-31 11:10         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 14:41   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-04  9:59     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 17:49     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-04 18:01       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-04 18:17         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-05 17:36           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 08/13] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for ENCLS leaf functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 15:01   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-04 11:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 09/13] x86/sgx: Enclave Page Cache (EPC) memory manager Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 21:14   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  8:36     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 21:15   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28  8:35     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-28 14:07       ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28 21:22         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-28 21:26           ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-28 21:52             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-31 11:22           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 19:02   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-04 15:38     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 15:45       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-11 15:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-16 11:40     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 10/13] x86/sgx: Add sgx_einit() for initializing enclaves Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 21:41   ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-28  7:01     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-29  7:33       ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-29 20:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 20:58           ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-29 21:09             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2018-08-30  1:45               ` Huang, Kai
2018-08-31 17:43                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-31 21:34                   ` Dr. Greg
2018-09-03 19:27                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 18:15                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-31 12:17         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-31 18:15           ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-03 19:19             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 23:45               ` Huang, Kai
2018-09-04 14:54                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-04 15:30                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 16:35                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-04 22:13                       ` Huang, Kai
2018-09-05 17:39                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 15:26                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-03 13:53   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-04  9:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 16:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 11/13] platform/x86: Intel SGX driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-04 17:59   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-05 17:33     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-05 17:36       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-09-06  9:21         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-06 17:35           ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-09-07  0:50             ` Joe Perches
2018-09-07 17:02               ` Sean Christopherson
2018-09-10 18:37               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-09-10 21:22                 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-10 18:33             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 12/13] platform/x86: ptrace() support for the " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 18:53 ` [PATCH v13 13/13] x86/sgx: Driver documentation Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-27 19:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-28  7:58     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-08-28  8:03   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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