linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "james qian wang (Arm Technology China)" <james.qian.wang@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Brian Starkey <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	Mihail Atanassov <Mihail.Atanassov@arm.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
Subject: Re: [RFC,3/3] drm/komeda: Allow non-component drm_bridge only endpoints
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 06:57:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191018065657.GA19117@jamwan02-TSP300> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191017114137.GC25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:41:37PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:48:12AM +0000, Brian Starkey wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:21:03AM +0000, james qian wang (Arm Technology China) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 08:20:56AM +0000, Brian Starkey wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 03:07:59AM +0000, james qian wang (Arm Technology China) wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 04:22:07PM +0000, Brian Starkey wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If James is strongly against merging this, maybe we just swap
> > > > > > wholesale to bridge? But for me, the pragmatic approach would be this
> > > > > > stop-gap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is a good idea, and I vote +ULONG_MAX :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > and I also checked tda998x driver, it supports bridge. so swap the
> > > > > wholesale to brige is perfect. :)
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Well, as Mihail wrote, it's definitely not perfect.
> > > > 
> > > > Today, if you rmmod tda998x with the DPU driver still loaded,
> > > > everything will be unbound gracefully.
> > > > 
> > > > If we swap to bridge, then rmmod'ing tda998x (or any other bridge
> > > > driver the DPU is using) with the DPU driver still loaded will result
> > > > in a crash.
> > > 
> > > I haven't read the bridge code, but seems this is a bug of drm_bridge,
> > > since if the bridge is still in using by others, the rmmod should fail
> > > 
> > 
> > Correct, but there's no fix for that today. You can also take a look
> > at the thread linked from Mihail's cover letter.
> > 
> > > And personally opinion, if the bridge doesn't handle the dependence.
> > > for us:
> > > 
> > > - add such support to bridge
> > 
> > That would certainly be helpful. I don't know if there's consensus on
> > how to do that.
> > 
> > >   or
> > > - just do the insmod/rmmod in correct order.
> > > 
> > > > So, there really are proper benefits to sticking with the component
> > > > code for tda998x, which is why I'd like to understand why you're so
> > > > against this patch?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > This change handles two different connectors in komeda internally, compare
> > > with one interface, it increases the complexity, more risk of bug and more
> > > cost of maintainance.
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, it's only about how to bind the drivers - two different methods
> > of binding, not two different connectors. I would argue that carrying
> > our out-of-tree patches to support both platforms is a larger
> > maintenance burden.
> > 
> > Honestly this looks like a win-win to me. We get the superior approach
> > when its supported, and still get to support bridges which are more
> > common.
> > 
> > As/when improvements are made to the bridge code we can remove the
> > component bits and not lose anything.
> 
> There was an idea a while back about using the device links code to
> solve the bridge issue - but at the time the device links code wasn't
> up to the job.  I think that's been resolved now, but I haven't been
> able to confirm it.  I did propose some patches for bridge at the
> time but they probably need updating.

Hi Russell:

Thank you, that's a good news.

Hi Brian:

Can this convince you to fully swap to bridge ?

Actually even there is no fix, we won't real encounter such rmmod problem,
since we always build the bridge/tda998 (by Y) into the image.

Thanks
James
> -- 
> RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
> FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 12.1Mbps down 622kbps up
> According to speedtest.net: 11.9Mbps down 500kbps up

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-18  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 14:34 [PATCH 0/3] drm/komeda: Support for drm_bridge endpoints Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-04 14:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/komeda: Consolidate struct komeda_drv allocations Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-04 14:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/komeda: Memory manage struct komeda_drv in probe/remove Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-04 14:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] drm/komeda: Allow non-component drm_bridge only endpoints Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-09  5:54   ` [RFC,3/3] " james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-10-16 15:51     ` Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-16 16:22       ` Brian Starkey
2019-10-17  3:07         ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-10-17  8:20           ` Brian Starkey
2019-10-17 10:21             ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-10-17 10:48               ` Brian Starkey
2019-10-17 11:41                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-18  6:57                   ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China) [this message]
2019-10-18  9:12                     ` Brian Starkey
2019-10-22  8:42                   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-22  8:48                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-22  8:50                       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-22 14:42                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-22 14:53                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-24  8:03                             ` Mihail Atanassov
2019-10-24  5:21                         ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-10-18  6:38                 ` james qian wang (Arm Technology China)
2019-10-18 11:01                   ` Mihail Atanassov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20191018065657.GA19117@jamwan02-TSP300 \
    --to=james.qian.wang@arm.com \
    --cc=Brian.Starkey@arm.com \
    --cc=Liviu.Dudau@arm.com \
    --cc=Mihail.Atanassov@arm.com \
    --cc=airlied@linux.ie \
    --cc=dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
    --cc=mripard@kernel.org \
    --cc=nd@arm.com \
    --cc=sean@poorly.run \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).