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* [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols
@ 2020-01-15 22:29 Kim Phillips
  2020-01-15 22:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric Kim Phillips
  2020-01-20  9:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols Jiri Olsa
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kim Phillips @ 2020-01-15 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, kim.phillips
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, Mark Rutland, Alexander Shishkin,
	Jiri Olsa, Namhyung Kim, Cong Wang, Andi Kleen, Jin Yao,
	Kan Liang, Song Liu, Davidlohr Bueso, linux-perf-users,
	linux-kernel

"acpi_idle_do_entry", "acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter", and "idle_cpu"
appear in 'perf top' output, at least on AMD systems.

Add them to perf's idle_symbols list, so they don't dominate 'perf top'
output.

Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
---
 tools/perf/util/symbol.c | 3 +++
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)

diff --git a/tools/perf/util/symbol.c b/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
index 3b379b1296f1..f3120c4f47ad 100644
--- a/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
+++ b/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
@@ -635,9 +635,12 @@ int modules__parse(const char *filename, void *arg,
 static bool symbol__is_idle(const char *name)
 {
 	const char * const idle_symbols[] = {
+		"acpi_idle_do_entry",
+		"acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter",
 		"arch_cpu_idle",
 		"cpu_idle",
 		"cpu_startup_entry",
+		"idle_cpu",
 		"intel_idle",
 		"default_idle",
 		"native_safe_halt",
-- 
2.24.1


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* [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric
  2020-01-15 22:29 [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols Kim Phillips
@ 2020-01-15 22:29 ` Kim Phillips
  2020-01-20  9:29   ` Jiri Olsa
  2020-01-20  9:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols Jiri Olsa
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kim Phillips @ 2020-01-15 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, kim.phillips
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, Mark Rutland, Alexander Shishkin,
	Jiri Olsa, Namhyung Kim, Cong Wang, Andi Kleen, Jin Yao,
	Kan Liang, Song Liu, Davidlohr Bueso, linux-perf-users,
	linux-kernel

For data collected on machines with front end stalled cycles supported,
such as found on modern AMD CPU families, commit 146540fb545b ("perf
stat: Always separate stalled cycles per insn") introduces a new line
in CSV output with a leading comma that upsets some automated scripts.
Scripts have to use "-e ex_ret_instr" to work around this issue, after
upgrading to a version of perf with that commit.

We could add "if (have_frontend_stalled && !config->csv_sep)"
to the not (total && avg) else clause, to emphasize that CSV users
are usually scripts, and are written to do only what is needed, i.e.,
they wouldn't typically invoke "perf stat" without specifying an
explicit event list.

But - let alone CSV output - why should users now tolerate a constant
0-reporting extra line in regular terminal output?:

BEFORE:

$ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles -- sleep 1

 Performance counter stats for 'system wide':

       181,110,981      instructions              #    0.58  insn per cycle
                                                  #    0.00  stalled cycles per insn
       309,876,469      cycles

       1.002202582 seconds time elapsed

The user would not like to see the now permanent
"0.00  stalled cycles per insn" line fixture, as it gives
no useful information.

So this patch removes the printing of the zeroed stalled cycles
line altogether, almost reverting the very original commit fb4605ba47e7
("perf stat: Check for frontend stalled for metrics"), which seems
like it was written to normalize --metric-only column output
of common Intel machines at the time: modern Intel machines
have ceased to support the genericised frontend stalled metrics AFAICT.

AFTER:

$ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles -- sleep 1

 Performance counter stats for 'system wide':

       244,071,432      instructions              #    0.69  insn per cycle
       355,353,490      cycles

       1.001862516 seconds time elapsed

Output behaviour when stalled cycles is indeed measured is not affected
(BEFORE == AFTER):

$ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles,stalled-cycles-frontend -- sleep 1

 Performance counter stats for 'system wide':

       247,227,799      instructions              #    0.63  insn per cycle
                                                  #    0.26  stalled cycles per insn
       394,745,636      cycles
        63,194,485      stalled-cycles-frontend   #   16.01% frontend cycles idle

       1.002079770 seconds time elapsed

Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Fixes: 146540fb545b ("perf stat: Always separate stalled cycles per insn")
Signed-off-by: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
---
 tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c | 6 ------
 1 file changed, 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c b/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
index 2c41d47f6f83..90d23cc3c8d4 100644
--- a/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
+++ b/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
@@ -18,7 +18,6 @@
  * AGGR_NONE: Use matching CPU
  * AGGR_THREAD: Not supported?
  */
-static bool have_frontend_stalled;
 
 struct runtime_stat rt_stat;
 struct stats walltime_nsecs_stats;
@@ -144,7 +143,6 @@ void runtime_stat__exit(struct runtime_stat *st)
 
 void perf_stat__init_shadow_stats(void)
 {
-	have_frontend_stalled = pmu_have_event("cpu", "stalled-cycles-frontend");
 	runtime_stat__init(&rt_stat);
 }
 
@@ -853,10 +851,6 @@ void perf_stat__print_shadow_stats(struct perf_stat_config *config,
 			print_metric(config, ctxp, NULL, "%7.2f ",
 					"stalled cycles per insn",
 					ratio);
-		} else if (have_frontend_stalled) {
-			out->new_line(config, ctxp);
-			print_metric(config, ctxp, NULL, "%7.2f ",
-				     "stalled cycles per insn", 0);
 		}
 	} else if (perf_evsel__match(evsel, HARDWARE, HW_BRANCH_MISSES)) {
 		if (runtime_stat_n(st, STAT_BRANCHES, ctx, cpu) != 0)
-- 
2.24.1


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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols
  2020-01-15 22:29 [PATCH 1/2] perf symbols: Update the list of kernel idle symbols Kim Phillips
  2020-01-15 22:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric Kim Phillips
@ 2020-01-20  9:28 ` Jiri Olsa
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Olsa @ 2020-01-20  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kim Phillips
  Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar,
	Mark Rutland, Alexander Shishkin, Jiri Olsa, Namhyung Kim,
	Cong Wang, Andi Kleen, Jin Yao, Kan Liang, Song Liu,
	Davidlohr Bueso, linux-perf-users, linux-kernel

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 04:29:48PM -0600, Kim Phillips wrote:
> "acpi_idle_do_entry", "acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter", and "idle_cpu"
> appear in 'perf top' output, at least on AMD systems.
> 
> Add them to perf's idle_symbols list, so they don't dominate 'perf top'
> output.
> 
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
> Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
> Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
> Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
> Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
> Cc: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
> ---
>  tools/perf/util/symbol.c | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/symbol.c b/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
> index 3b379b1296f1..f3120c4f47ad 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
> +++ b/tools/perf/util/symbol.c
> @@ -635,9 +635,12 @@ int modules__parse(const char *filename, void *arg,
>  static bool symbol__is_idle(const char *name)
>  {
>  	const char * const idle_symbols[] = {
> +		"acpi_idle_do_entry",
> +		"acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter",
>  		"arch_cpu_idle",
>  		"cpu_idle",
>  		"cpu_startup_entry",
> +		"idle_cpu",
>  		"intel_idle",
>  		"default_idle",
>  		"native_safe_halt",

ok, at some point we should put this in strlist ;-)

Acked-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com

thanks,
jirka


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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric
  2020-01-15 22:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric Kim Phillips
@ 2020-01-20  9:29   ` Jiri Olsa
  2020-01-20 11:57     ` Andi Kleen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Olsa @ 2020-01-20  9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kim Phillips
  Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar,
	Mark Rutland, Alexander Shishkin, Jiri Olsa, Namhyung Kim,
	Cong Wang, Andi Kleen, Jin Yao, Kan Liang, Song Liu,
	Davidlohr Bueso, linux-perf-users, linux-kernel

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 04:29:49PM -0600, Kim Phillips wrote:
> For data collected on machines with front end stalled cycles supported,
> such as found on modern AMD CPU families, commit 146540fb545b ("perf
> stat: Always separate stalled cycles per insn") introduces a new line
> in CSV output with a leading comma that upsets some automated scripts.
> Scripts have to use "-e ex_ret_instr" to work around this issue, after
> upgrading to a version of perf with that commit.
> 
> We could add "if (have_frontend_stalled && !config->csv_sep)"
> to the not (total && avg) else clause, to emphasize that CSV users
> are usually scripts, and are written to do only what is needed, i.e.,
> they wouldn't typically invoke "perf stat" without specifying an
> explicit event list.
> 
> But - let alone CSV output - why should users now tolerate a constant
> 0-reporting extra line in regular terminal output?:
> 
> BEFORE:
> 
> $ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles -- sleep 1
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
> 
>        181,110,981      instructions              #    0.58  insn per cycle
>                                                   #    0.00  stalled cycles per insn
>        309,876,469      cycles
> 
>        1.002202582 seconds time elapsed
> 
> The user would not like to see the now permanent
> "0.00  stalled cycles per insn" line fixture, as it gives
> no useful information.
> 
> So this patch removes the printing of the zeroed stalled cycles
> line altogether, almost reverting the very original commit fb4605ba47e7
> ("perf stat: Check for frontend stalled for metrics"), which seems
> like it was written to normalize --metric-only column output
> of common Intel machines at the time: modern Intel machines
> have ceased to support the genericised frontend stalled metrics AFAICT.
> 
> AFTER:
> 
> $ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles -- sleep 1
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
> 
>        244,071,432      instructions              #    0.69  insn per cycle
>        355,353,490      cycles
> 
>        1.001862516 seconds time elapsed
> 
> Output behaviour when stalled cycles is indeed measured is not affected
> (BEFORE == AFTER):
> 
> $ sudo perf stat --all-cpus -einstructions,cycles,stalled-cycles-frontend -- sleep 1
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide':
> 
>        247,227,799      instructions              #    0.63  insn per cycle
>                                                   #    0.26  stalled cycles per insn
>        394,745,636      cycles
>         63,194,485      stalled-cycles-frontend   #   16.01% frontend cycles idle
> 
>        1.002079770 seconds time elapsed

looks reasonable to me, Andi, are you ok with this?

Acked-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com

thanks,
jirka

> 
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
> Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
> Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
> Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
> Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
> Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
> Cc: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 146540fb545b ("perf stat: Always separate stalled cycles per insn")
> Signed-off-by: Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>
> ---
>  tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c | 6 ------
>  1 file changed, 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c b/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
> index 2c41d47f6f83..90d23cc3c8d4 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
> +++ b/tools/perf/util/stat-shadow.c
> @@ -18,7 +18,6 @@
>   * AGGR_NONE: Use matching CPU
>   * AGGR_THREAD: Not supported?
>   */
> -static bool have_frontend_stalled;
>  
>  struct runtime_stat rt_stat;
>  struct stats walltime_nsecs_stats;
> @@ -144,7 +143,6 @@ void runtime_stat__exit(struct runtime_stat *st)
>  
>  void perf_stat__init_shadow_stats(void)
>  {
> -	have_frontend_stalled = pmu_have_event("cpu", "stalled-cycles-frontend");
>  	runtime_stat__init(&rt_stat);
>  }
>  
> @@ -853,10 +851,6 @@ void perf_stat__print_shadow_stats(struct perf_stat_config *config,
>  			print_metric(config, ctxp, NULL, "%7.2f ",
>  					"stalled cycles per insn",
>  					ratio);
> -		} else if (have_frontend_stalled) {
> -			out->new_line(config, ctxp);
> -			print_metric(config, ctxp, NULL, "%7.2f ",
> -				     "stalled cycles per insn", 0);
>  		}
>  	} else if (perf_evsel__match(evsel, HARDWARE, HW_BRANCH_MISSES)) {
>  		if (runtime_stat_n(st, STAT_BRANCHES, ctx, cpu) != 0)
> -- 
> 2.24.1
> 


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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf stat: don't report a null stalled cycles per insn metric
  2020-01-20  9:29   ` Jiri Olsa
@ 2020-01-20 11:57     ` Andi Kleen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2020-01-20 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jiri Olsa
  Cc: Kim Phillips, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Peter Zijlstra,
	Ingo Molnar, Mark Rutland, Alexander Shishkin, Jiri Olsa,
	Namhyung Kim, Cong Wang, Jin Yao, Kan Liang, Song Liu,
	Davidlohr Bueso, linux-perf-users, linux-kernel

> looks reasonable to me, Andi, are you ok with this?
> 
> Acked-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com

Yes.

Acked-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>

-Andi

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