From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Jon Masters <jcm@jonmasters.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
parri.andrea@gmail.com, will@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com,
j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr, akiyks@gmail.com,
dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:32:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201004233227.GQ29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17935342-e927-284c-9a2b-ca75dd2398ad@jonmasters.org>
On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 10:35:45PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> On 10/1/20 12:15 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 09:51:16PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > Al Viro posted the following query:
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > <viro> fun question regarding barriers, if you have time for that
> > > <viro> V->A = V->B = 1;
> > > <viro>
> > > <viro> CPU1:
> > > <viro> to_free = NULL
> > > <viro> spin_lock(&LOCK)
> > > <viro> if (!smp_load_acquire(&V->B))
> > > <viro> to_free = V
> > > <viro> V->A = 0
> > > <viro> spin_unlock(&LOCK)
> > > <viro> kfree(to_free)
> > > <viro>
> > > <viro> CPU2:
> > > <viro> to_free = V;
> > > <viro> if (READ_ONCE(V->A)) {
> > > <viro> spin_lock(&LOCK)
> > > <viro> if (V->A)
> > > <viro> to_free = NULL
> > > <viro> smp_store_release(&V->B, 0);
> > > <viro> spin_unlock(&LOCK)
> > > <viro> }
> > > <viro> kfree(to_free);
> > > <viro> 1) is it guaranteed that V will be freed exactly once and that
> > > no accesses to *V will happen after freeing it?
> > > <viro> 2) do we need smp_store_release() there? I.e. will anything
> > > break if it's replaced with plain V->B = 0?
> >
> > Here are my answers to Al's questions:
> >
> > 1) It is guaranteed that V will be freed exactly once. It is not
> > guaranteed that no accesses to *V will occur after it is freed, because
> > the test contains a data race. CPU1's plain "V->A = 0" write races with
> > CPU2's READ_ONCE; if the plain write were replaced with
> > "WRITE_ONCE(V->A, 0)" then the guarantee would hold. Equally well,
> > CPU1's smp_load_acquire could be replaced with a plain read while the
> > plain write is replaced with smp_store_release.
> >
> > 2) The smp_store_release in CPU2 is not needed. Replacing it with a
> > plain V->B = 0 will not break anything.
>
> This was my interpretation also. I made the mistake of reading this right
> before trying to go to bed the other night and ended up tweeting at Paul
> that I'd regret it if he gave me scary dreams. Thought about it and read
> your write up and it is still exactly how I see it.
Should I have added a "read at your own risk" disclaimer? ;-)
Thanx, Paul
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-04 23:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-01 4:51 Litmus test for question from Al Viro Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-01 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-01 16:36 ` Al Viro
2020-10-01 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-01 19:29 ` Al Viro
2020-10-01 21:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 2:01 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-03 13:22 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-03 15:16 ` Akira Yokosawa
2020-10-03 17:13 ` Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro] Alan Stern
2020-10-03 22:50 ` Akira Yokosawa
2020-10-04 1:40 ` [PATCH] tools: memory-model: Document that the LKMM can easily miss control dependencies Alan Stern
2020-10-04 21:07 ` joel
2020-10-04 23:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 15:15 ` Bug in herd7 [Was: Re: Litmus test for question from Al Viro] Luc Maranget
2020-10-05 15:53 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 16:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 18:19 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 19:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 19:48 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-06 16:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-06 17:05 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-07 17:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-07 19:40 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-07 22:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-08 2:25 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-08 2:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-08 14:01 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-08 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 15:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-04 23:31 ` Litmus test for question from Al Viro Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 2:38 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 8:20 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 9:12 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 14:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:23 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 15:13 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-05 15:16 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-05 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:16 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 14:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 14:24 ` Alan Stern
2020-10-05 14:44 ` joel
2020-10-05 15:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 8:36 ` David Laight
2020-10-05 13:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 16:08 ` joel
2020-10-03 16:11 ` joel
2020-10-04 23:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-03 2:35 ` Jon Masters
2020-10-04 23:32 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
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