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From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, sboyd@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	Mark.Rutland@arm.com, maz@kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com,
	neeraju@codeaurora.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com,
	Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 clocksource 6/7] clocksource: Forgive tsc_early pre-calibration drift
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 23:36:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210426153605.GB89018@shbuild999.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210426152529.GX975577@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 08:25:29AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 11:01:27PM +0800, Feng Tang wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 03:47:07PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > Because the x86 tsc_early clocksource is given a quick and semi-accurate
> > > calibration (by design!), it might have drift rates well in excess of
> > > the 0.1% limit that is in the process of being adopted.
> > > 
> > > Therefore, add a max_drift field to the clocksource structure that, when
> > > non-zero, specifies the maximum allowable drift rate in nanoseconds over
> > > a half-second period.  The tsc_early clocksource initializes this to five
> > > miliseconds, which corresponds to the 1% drift rate limit suggested by
> > > Xing Zhengjun.  This max_drift field is intended only for early boot,
> > > so clocksource_watchdog() splats if it encounters a non-zero value in
> > > this field more than 60 seconds after boot, inspired by a suggestion by
> > > Thomas Gleixner.
> > > 
> > > This was tested by setting the clocksource_tsc ->max_drift field to 1,
> > > which, as expected, resulted in a clock-skew event.
> > 
> > We've run the same last for this v10, and those 'unstable' thing [1] can
> > not be reproduced!
> 
> Good to hear!  ;-)
> 
> > We've reported one case that tsc can be wrongly judged as 'unstable'
> > by 'refined-jiffies' watchdog [1], while reducing the threshold could
> > make it easier to be triggered.
> > 
> > It could be reproduced on the a plaform with a 115200 serial console,
> > and hpet been disabled (several x86 platforms has this), add 
> > 'initcall_debug' cmdline parameter to get more debug message, we can
> > see:
> > 
> > [    1.134197] clocksource: timekeeping watchdog on CPU1: Marking clocksource 'tsc-early' as unstable because the skew is too large:
> > [    1.134214] clocksource:                       'refined-jiffies' wd_nesc: 500000000 wd_now: ffff8b35 wd_last: ffff8b03 mask: ffffffff
> > [    1.134217] clocksource:                       'tsc-early' cs_nsec: 507537855 cs_now: 4e63c9d09 cs_last: 4bebd81f5 mask: ffffffffffffffff
> > [    1.134220] clocksource:                       No current clocksource.
> > [    1.134222] tsc: Marking TSC unstable due to clocksource watchdog
> 
> Just to make sure I understand: "could be reproduced" as in this is the
> result from v9, and v10 avoids this, correct?

Sorry I didn't make it clear. This is a rarely happened case, and can
be reproduced with upstream kerenl, which has 62.5 ms threshold. 6/7 &
7/7 patch of reducing the threshold can make it easier to be triggered.

Thanks,
Feng


> 							Thanx, Paul
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-26 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 22:45 [PATCH v10 clocksource 0/7] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:07   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 16:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 17:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 18:24             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  4:49               ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 13:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 14:24                   ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 14:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 2/7] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:44   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 3/7] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:12   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 4/7] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 5/7] clocksource: Limit number of CPUs checked for clock synchronization Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 6/7] clocksource: Forgive tsc_early pre-calibration drift Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:01   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:36       ` Feng Tang [this message]
2021-04-26 18:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:13           ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  3:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  4:16               ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  7:27   ` [clocksource] 8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog kernel test robot
2021-04-27  8:45     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27 13:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 21:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28  1:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 10:14               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 13:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 17:00                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  7:38                   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-28 18:31               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29  8:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 14:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 17:30                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 23:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-30  0:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v9 clocksource 6/6] clocksource: Reduce WATCHDOG_THRESHOLD Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 7/7] " Paul E. McKenney

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