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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc: Switch to bulk allocator in __vmalloc_area_node()
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 21:52:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210519195214.GA2343@pc638.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210519155630.GD3672@suse.de>

> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 04:39:00PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * If not enough pages were obtained to accomplish an
> > > > +	 * allocation request, free them via __vfree() if any.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	if (area->nr_pages != nr_small_pages) {
> > > > +		warn_alloc(gfp_mask, NULL,
> > > > +			"vmalloc size %lu allocation failure: "
> > > > +			"page order %u allocation failed",
> > > > +			area->nr_pages * PAGE_SIZE, page_order);
> > > > +		goto fail;
> > > > +	}
> > > 
> > > From reading __alloc_pages_bulk not allocating all pages is something
> > > that cn happen fairly easily.  Shouldn't we try to allocate the missing
> > > pages manually and/ore retry here?
> > > 
> >
> > It is a good point. The bulk-allocator, as i see, only tries to access
> > to pcp-list and falls-back to a single allocator once it fails, so the
> > array may not be fully populated.
> > 
> 
> Partially correct. It does allocate via the pcp-list but the pcp-list will
> be refilled if it's empty so if the bulk allocator returns fewer pages
> than requested, it may be due to hitting watermarks or the local zone is
> depleted. It does not take any special action to correct the situation
> or stall e.g.  wake kswapd, enter direct reclaim, allocate from a remote
> node etc.
> 
> If no pages were allocated, it'll try allocate at least one page via a
> single allocation request in case the bulk failure would push the zone
> over the watermark but 1 page does not. That path as a side-effect would
> also wake kswapd.
> 
OK. A single page allocator can enter a slow path i mean direct reclaim,
etc to adjust watermarks.

> > In that case probably it makes sense to manually populate it using
> > single page allocator.
> > 
> > Mel, could you please also comment on it?
> > 
> 
> It is by design because it's unknown if callers can recover or if so,
> how they want to recover and the primary intent behind the bulk allocator
> was speed. In the case of network, it only wants some pages quickly so as
> long as it gets 1, it makes progress. For the sunrpc user, it's willing
> to wait and retry. For vmalloc, I'm unsure what a suitable recovery path
> should be as I do not have a good handle on workloads that are sensitive
> to vmalloc performance. The obvious option would be to loop and allocate
> single pages with alloc_pages_node understanding that the additional
> pages may take longer to allocate.
> 
I got it. At least we should fall-back for a single allocator, that is how
we used to allocate before(now it is for high-order pages). If it also fails
to obtain a page we are done.

Basically a single-page allocator is more permissive so it is a higher
chance to success. Therefore a fallback to it makes sense.

Thanks.

--
Vlad Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-19 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-16 20:20 [PATCH 0/3] vmalloc() vs bulk allocator v2 Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2021-05-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/page_alloc: Add an alloc_pages_bulk_array_node() helper Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2021-05-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc: Switch to bulk allocator in __vmalloc_area_node() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2021-05-17  8:24   ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-17 11:51     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-05-19 13:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-19 14:39     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-05-19 15:56       ` Mel Gorman
2021-05-19 19:52         ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2021-05-19 21:07           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-06-28 23:00             ` Andrew Morton
2021-05-16 20:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/vmalloc: Print a warning message first on failure Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)

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