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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf probe: Provide more detail with relocation warning
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 23:20:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210526232020.c1632c2285af811c7531b3cc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YK5FfaxFKUNdDBWz@kernel.org>

On Wed, 26 May 2021 09:56:29 -0300
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:

> Em Wed, May 26, 2021 at 03:33:40PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu escreveu:
> > On Wed, 26 May 2021 10:23:18 +0530 Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > On 5/25/21 6:18 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 25 May 2021 10:07:44 +0530 Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > >> When run as normal user with default sysctl kernel.kptr_restrict=0
> > > >> and kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2, perf probe fails with:
> 
> > > >>    $ ./perf probe move_page_tables
> > > >>    Relocated base symbol is not found!
> 
> > > >> The warning message is not much informative. The reason perf
> > > >> fails is because /proc/kallsyms is restricted by
> > > >> perf_event_paranoid=2 for normal user and thus perf fails to read
> > > >> relocated address of the base symbol.
> 
> > > >> Tweaking kptr_restrict and perf_event_paranoid can change the
> > > >> behavior of perf probe. Also, running as root or privileged user
> > > >> works too. Add these details in the warning message.
> 
> > > >> Plus, kmap->ref_reloc_sym might not be always set even if
> > > >> host_machine is initialized. Above is the example of the same.
> > > >> Remove that comment.
> 
> > > > Yes, those are restricted in some cases. Anyway without priviledged
> > > > (super) user, perf probe can not set the probe in ftrace.
> 
> > > > Hmm, I think it should check the effective user-id at first. If it
> > > > is not super user and the action will access tracefs and kallsyms,
> > > > it should warn at that point.
> 
> > > If kptr_restrict=2, perf probe fails with same error even for root user.
> > > That's why I thought to just change this warning message.
> 
> > Ah, yes. In that case, perf probe must not use the base symbol.
> > (like -D option)
> > OK, then, let's merge this fix.
> 
> > Acked-by: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
> 
> Thanks, applied as it improves the current situation.
> 
> But as a follow up, to further improve this, we can reuse what 'perf trace' has:
> 
>   $ perf trace sleep 1
>   Error:	No permissions to read /sys/kernel/tracing/events/raw_syscalls/sys_(enter|exit)
>   Hint:	Try 'sudo mount -o remount,mode=755 /sys/kernel/tracing/'
>   $ sudo mount -o remount,mode=755 /sys/kernel/tracing/
>   $ perf trace sleep 1
>   Error:	Permission denied.
>   Hint:	Check /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid setting.
>   Hint:	For your workloads it needs to be <= 1
>   Hint:	For system wide tracing it needs to be set to -1.
>   Hint:	Try: 'sudo sh -c "echo -1 > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid"'
>   Hint:	The current value is 2.
>   $ 

OK, let me check this.
BTW, does perf_event_paranoid affect only perf syscall (and kallsyms),
not the tracefs correct?

> I.e. go the extra step and show what the current value is and what it
> needs to be to achieve what is being attempted.
> 
> IOW combine error message with relevant documentation, to save steps.
> 
> See what 'perf top' does for an unpriv user:
> 
>   $ perf top --stdio
>   Error:
>   Access to performance monitoring and observability operations is limited.
>   Enforced MAC policy settings (SELinux) can limit access to performance
>   monitoring and observability operations. Inspect system audit records for
>   more perf_event access control information and adjusting the policy.
>   Consider adjusting /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid setting to open
>   access to performance monitoring and observability operations for processes
>   without CAP_PERFMON, CAP_SYS_PTRACE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN Linux capability.
>   More information can be found at 'Perf events and tool security' document:
>   https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/perf-security.html
>   perf_event_paranoid setting is 2:
>     -1: Allow use of (almost) all events by all users
>         Ignore mlock limit after perf_event_mlock_kb without CAP_IPC_LOCK
>   >= 0: Disallow raw and ftrace function tracepoint access
>   >= 1: Disallow CPU event access
>   >= 2: Disallow kernel profiling
>   To make the adjusted perf_event_paranoid setting permanent preserve it
>   in /etc/sysctl.conf (e.g. kernel.perf_event_paranoid = <setting>)

Hmm, I would rather like pointing manpages...

Would we better to have perf-security.7 manpage?

Thank you,

>   $
> 
> - Arnaldo
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Different combinations of privilege, perf_event_paranoid, kptr_restrict:
> > > 
> > >    Normal/Root user
> > >     |   perf_event_paranoid
> > >     V    V   kptr_restrict        perf probe error
> > >    ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >     N   -1    0     Failed to open kprobe_events: Permission denied
> > >     N    0    0     Failed to open kprobe_events: Permission denied
> > >     N    1    0     Failed to open kprobe_events: Permission denied
> > >     N    2    0     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >    
> > >     N   -1    1     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    0    1     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    1    1     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    2    1     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >    
> > >     N   -1    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    0    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    1    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     N    2    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >    
> > >     R   -1    0     No error.
> > >     R    0    0     No error.
> > >     R    1    0     No error.
> > >     R    2    0     No error.
> > >    
> > >     R   -1    1     No error.
> > >     R    0    1     No error.
> > >     R    1    1     No error.
> > >     R    2    1     No error.
> > >    
> > >     R   -1    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     R    0    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     R    1    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > >     R    2    2     Relocated base symbol is not found!
> > > 
> > > Ravi
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
> 
> -- 
> 
> - Arnaldo


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-25  4:37 [PATCH] perf probe: Provide more detail with relocation warning Ravi Bangoria
2021-05-25 12:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-05-26  4:53   ` Ravi Bangoria
2021-05-26  6:33     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-05-26 12:56       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-05-26 14:20         ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2021-06-02 11:52           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-02 12:12             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-02 13:15               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-05-26  9:01 ` [PATCH] tools/perf: doc: Add permission and sysctl notice Masami Hiramatsu
2021-05-26  9:50   ` Ravi Bangoria
2021-05-26 13:16     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2021-05-26 14:51   ` [PATCH v2] " Masami Hiramatsu
2021-06-02 11:53     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-06-02 13:51       ` Ravi Bangoria
2021-06-04 13:25         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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