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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:16:02 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210929161602.GA1805739@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210928141844.15cea787.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:18:44PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:35:50 -0300
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 01:19:58PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > > In defining the device state, we tried to steer away from defining it
> > > in terms of the QEMU migration API, but rather as a set of controls
> > > that could be used to support that API to leave us some degree of
> > > independence that QEMU implementation might evolve.  
> > 
> > That is certainly a different perspective, it would have been
> > better to not express this idea as a FSM in that case...
> > 
> > So each state in mlx5vf_pci_set_device_state() should call the correct
> > combination of (un)freeze, (un)quiesce and so on so each state
> > reflects a defined operation of the device?
> 
> I'd expect so, for instance the implementation of entering the _STOP
> state presumes a previous state that where the device is apparently
> already quiesced.  That doesn't support a direct _RUNNING -> _STOP
> transition where I argued in the linked threads that those states
> should be reachable from any other state.  Thanks,

If we focus on mlx5 there are two device 'flags' to manage:
 - Device cannot issue DMAs
 - Device internal state cannot change (ie cannot receive DMAs)

This is necessary to co-ordinate across multiple devices that might be
doing peer to peer DMA between them. The whole multi-device complex
should be moved to "cannot issue DMA's" then the whole complex would
go to "state cannot change" and be serialized.

The expected sequence at the device is thus

Resuming
 full stop -> does not issue DMAs -> full operation
Suspend
 full operation -> does not issue DMAs -> full stop

Further the device has two actions
 - Trigger serializating the device state
 - Trigger de-serializing the device state

So, what is the behavior upon each state:

 *  000b => Device Stopped, not saving or resuming
     Does not issue DMAs
     Internal state cannot change

 *  001b => Device running, which is the default state
     Neither flags

 *  010b => Stop the device & save the device state, stop-and-copy state
     Does not issue DMAs
     Internal state cannot change

 *  011b => Device running and save the device state, pre-copy state
     Neither flags
     (future, DMA tracking turned on)

 *  100b => Device stopped and the device state is resuming
     Does not issue DMAs
     Internal state cannot change
     
 *  110b => Error state
    ???

 *  101b => Invalid state
 *  111b => Invalid state

    ???

What should the ??'s be? It looks like mlx5 doesn't use these, so it
should just refuse to enter these states in the first place..

The two actions:
 trigger serializing the device state
   Done when asked to go to 010b ?

 trigger de-serializing the device state
   Done when transition from 100b -> 000b ?

There is a missing state "Stop Active Transactions" which would be
only "does not issue DMAs". I've seen a proposal to add that.

I'm happy enough with this and it seems clean and easy enough to
implement.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-29 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1632305919.git.leonro@nvidia.com>
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 1/7] PCI/IOV: Provide internal VF index Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 21:59   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-23  6:35     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24 13:08       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-25 10:10         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-25 17:41           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-26  6:36             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-26 20:23               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-27 11:55                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-27 14:47                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 10:33   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-23 11:17     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:55       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-24  7:44         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-24  9:37           ` Kirti Wankhede
2021-09-26  9:09           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-26 16:17             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 18:24               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-27 18:29                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 22:46   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-27 23:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 19:19       ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-28 19:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 20:18           ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 16:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-09-29 18:06               ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 18:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 10:57         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 10:44       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 12:35         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 13:26           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 13:50             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 14:36               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 15:17                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 15:28                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 16:14                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 21:48                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 22:44                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-30  9:25                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 12:41                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 23:21                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30  9:34                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 14:47                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 15:32                               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 16:24                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 16:51                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 17:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 3/7] vfio/pci_core: Make the region->release() function optional Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:57   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 4/7] net/mlx5: Introduce migration bits and structures Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24  5:48   ` Mark Zhang
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 5/7] net/mlx5: Expose APIs to get/put the mlx5 core device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 6/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Expose migration commands over mlx5 device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-28 20:22   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29  5:36     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 7/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Implement vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Leon Romanovsky

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