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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>,
	Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Stuart Yoder <stuyoder@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Li Yang <leoyang.li@nxp.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jacob jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/8] iommu: Add iommu_group_replace_domain()
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:45:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214124518.GU4160@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43f2fc07-19ea-53a4-af86-a9192a950c96@arm.com>

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 12:09:36PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2022-01-06 02:20, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > Expose an interface to replace the domain of an iommu group for frameworks
> > like vfio which claims the ownership of the whole iommu group.
> 
> But if the underlying point is the new expectation that
> iommu_{attach,detach}_device() operate on the device's whole group where
> relevant, why should we invent some special mechanism for VFIO to be
> needlessly inconsistent?
> 
> I said before that it's trivial for VFIO to resolve a suitable device if it
> needs to; by now I've actually written the patch ;)
> 
> https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-rm/-/commit/9f37d8c17c9b606abc96e1f1001c0b97c8b93ed5

Er, how does locking work there? What keeps busdev from being
concurrently unplugged? How can iommu_group_get() be safely called on
this pointer?

All of the above only works normally inside a probe/remove context
where the driver core is blocking concurrent unplug and descruction.

I think I said this last time you brought it up that lifetime was the
challenge with this idea.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-06  2:20 [PATCH v1 0/8] Scrap iommu_attach/detach_group() interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] iommu: Add iommu_group_replace_domain() Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 17:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  0:26     ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-14 12:09   ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-14 12:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-02-14 14:10       ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-14 14:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 16:38           ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-14 17:25             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] vfio/type1: Use iommu_group_replace_domain() Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] iommu: Extend iommu_at[de]tach_device() for multi-device groups Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 17:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  1:14     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-07  1:19       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 11:39   ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-14 13:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 14:39       ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-14 15:18         ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-14 15:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15  8:58             ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-15 13:47               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  6:28                 ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-16 13:54                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] drm/tegra: Use iommu_attach/detatch_device() Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] iommu/amd: Use iommu_attach/detach_device() Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 14:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  0:23     ` Lu Baolu
2022-02-14 11:27     ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-14 13:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 13:40         ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-14 14:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-14 14:23             ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-14 15:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15  9:11                 ` Joerg Roedel
2022-02-15 13:02                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-02-15 14:37                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] gpu/host1x: " Lu Baolu
2022-01-06 15:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  0:35     ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-07  0:48       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  1:19         ` Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] media: staging: media: tegra-vde: " Lu Baolu
2022-01-06  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] iommu: Remove iommu_attach/detach_group() Lu Baolu

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