From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
dchinner@redhat.com, sandeen@redhat.com, bfoster@redhat.com,
jack@suse.cz, andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com,
peterz@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
dhowells@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 11:23:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230708152314.lcpepguue3imrt3i@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230708150249.GO1178919@mit.edu>
On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 11:02:49AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 12:31:36AM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> >
> > I've long thought a more useful CoC would start with "always try to
> > continue the technical conversation in good faith, always try to build
> > off of what other people are saying; don't shut people down".
>
> Kent, with all due respect, do you not always follow your suggested
> formulation that you've stated above. That is to say, you do not
> always assume that your conversational partner is trying to raise
> objections in good faith.
Ted, how do you have a technical conversation with someone who refuses
to say anything concrete, even when you ask them to elaborate on their
objections, and instead just repeats the same vague non-answers?
> You also want to assume that you are the smartest person in the room,
> and if they object, they are Obviously Wrong.
Ok, now you're really reaching.
Anyone who's actually worked with me can tell you I am quick to consider
other people's point of view and quick to admit when I'm wrong.
All I ask is the same courtesy.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-08 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-26 21:46 [GIT PULL] bcachefs Kent Overstreet
2023-06-26 23:11 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 0:06 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 1:13 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 2:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 2:59 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 3:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 17:16 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 20:15 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 22:05 ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-27 22:41 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 14:40 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 14:48 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2023-06-28 14:58 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 3:16 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 4:01 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 14:58 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 15:22 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 17:56 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:45 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 16:57 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 17:33 ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-28 17:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 21:17 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:13 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 22:33 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:55 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 23:14 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 23:50 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29 1:00 ` Dave Chinner
2023-06-29 1:33 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-29 11:18 ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-29 14:17 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29 15:31 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-30 9:40 ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-06 15:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 16:26 ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-06 16:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-29 1:29 ` Jens Axboe
2023-07-06 20:15 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 17:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 20:54 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 22:14 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-28 23:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-28 23:11 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 2:33 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 2:59 ` Jens Axboe
2023-06-27 3:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-27 3:22 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-27 3:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-27 4:36 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 15:56 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 16:40 ` Josef Bacik
2023-07-06 17:38 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 19:17 ` Eric Sandeen
2023-07-06 19:31 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-06 21:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-06 22:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 13:13 ` Jan Kara
2023-07-07 13:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 8:48 ` Christian Brauner
2023-07-07 9:18 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 16:26 ` James Bottomley
2023-07-07 16:48 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 17:04 ` James Bottomley
2023-07-07 17:26 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08 3:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-08 4:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08 4:31 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-08 15:02 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-08 15:23 ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-07-08 16:42 ` James Bottomley
2023-07-09 1:16 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 9:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-07 2:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-07 12:18 ` Brian Foster
2023-07-07 14:49 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 2:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 19:48 ` Kees Cook
2023-07-12 19:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-07-12 22:10 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-12 23:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-09 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 15:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-10 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 18:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-10 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-10 17:52 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-11 2:47 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 8:10 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-11 8:13 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-10 22:39 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-10 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11 2:40 ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-11 4:03 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11 5:29 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 5:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-11 7:52 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-11 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2023-08-11 3:45 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-21 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2023-08-10 23:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-11 10:54 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-11 12:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-14 7:25 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-14 15:23 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 13:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-08-11 22:56 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-14 7:21 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-14 15:27 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-03 3:25 Kent Overstreet
2023-09-05 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-06 0:00 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-06 0:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-06 16:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-06 17:57 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-08 9:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-09-06 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 21:55 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:13 ` David Sterba
2023-09-06 23:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06 23:46 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:53 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2023-09-06 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-10 0:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-07 20:37 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-07 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-07 23:40 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-08 6:29 ` Martin Steigerwald
2023-09-08 9:11 ` Joshua Ashton
2023-09-06 22:28 ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-09-07 0:03 ` Kees Cook
2023-09-07 14:29 ` Chris Mason
2023-09-07 20:39 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-09-08 10:50 ` Brian Foster
2023-09-08 23:05 ` Dave Chinner
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