From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] mm/gup: migrate pinned pages out of movable zone
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 08:29:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2D10D596-3159-483C-81B4-CD187806ED46@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201211235005.GE5487@ziepe.ca>
> Am 12.12.2020 um 00:50 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>:
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:53:00PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>
>>> When check_and_migrate_movable_pages() is called, the pages are
>>> already pinned. If some of those pages are in movable zone, and we
>>> fail to migrate or isolate them what should we do: proceed, and
>>> keep it as exception of when movable zone can actually have pinned
>>> pages or unpin all pages in the array, and return an error, or
>>> unpin only pages in movable zone, and return an error?
>>
>> I guess revert what we did (unpin) and return an error. The
>> interesting question is what can make migration/isolation fail
>>
>> a) out of memory: smells like a zone setup issue. Failures are acceptable I guess.
>
> Out of memory is reasonable..
>
>> b) short term pinnings: process dying - not relevant I guess. Other cases? (Fork?)
>
> Concurrent with non-longterm GUP users are less reasonable, fork is
> not reasonable, etc..
Concurrent alloc_contig_range(), memory offlining, compaction .. where we migrate pages? Any experts on racing page migration in these scenarios?
(Also wondering what would happen if we are just about to swap)
>
> Racing with another GUP in another thread is also not reasonable, so
> failing to isolate can't be a failure
Having VMs with multiple vfio containers is certainly realistic, and optimizing in user space to do vfio mappings concurrently doesn‘t sound too crazy to me. But I haven‘t checked if vfio common code already handles such concurrency.
>
> Jasnon
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-12 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-11 20:21 [PATCH v3 0/6] prohibit pinning pages in ZONE_MOVABLE Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm/gup: don't pin migrated cma pages in movable zone Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm cma: rename PF_MEMALLOC_NOCMA to PF_MEMALLOC_PIN Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-14 14:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-15 4:37 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: apply per-task gfp constraints in fast path Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-14 14:09 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-15 5:20 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-15 8:25 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-15 17:35 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm: honor PF_MEMALLOC_PIN for all movable pages Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-14 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-15 5:24 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-15 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-15 17:28 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] mm/gup: migrate pinned pages out of movable zone Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-11 20:40 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 20:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-11 21:09 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 21:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-11 21:35 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-11 21:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-11 23:00 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-12 0:07 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-11 23:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-12 7:29 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-12-14 13:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-14 14:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-14 14:30 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-14 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-11 20:21 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] memory-hotplug.rst: add a note about ZONE_MOVABLE and page pinning Pavel Tatashin
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